[Andy33]

I have about 45K on the harder OEM mount up front and seem to be fine..I'll be replacing my clutch to the newer 2011 one this winter..I switched back to dino oil this summer and went 5-6K shudder free,with a good warm up..last couple rides of the season,in cooler weather and without a lengthy warmup it returned..with a vengeance.have the new clutch sitting on the shelf for two years,time to get her in and be done with this..
pin ,3 side grind,a must..they just don't get enough oil

Good to know the mounts should still be good. thanks :bigthumbsup:

In a small way I'm happy to hear I'm not alone on this venture. If I could ask, what did you purchase to make up the new clutch?
I understand the springs and the pin mod, but the clutch plates is confusing me. Haven't had time to look at both schematics to compare part numbers. Not sure I if should just buy every plate/disc from a 2011+ clutch or if I only need a few new items?

 

[Bering_C_Sparky]

The newer friction and steel plates are thinner than the 1st generation, so both stacks end up being the same height even though the newer version has more plates.
So you want to make sure you don't mix the two together and end up with a stack that is to tall.

I have never upgraded to the newer clutch plates on any of my bikes but here is the parts list that Harris has posted on this site many times.
If you use the search feature I am sure you can find several of his post that have this list if you want to double check it against what I have here.

qty (6) Part # - 21413-35F10 SPRING,CLUTCH

qty ( 6 ) Part # - 21441-22H00 PLATE,CLUTCH DR

qty ( 5 ) Part # - 21451-22H00 PLATE,CLUTCH DR

qty ( 2 ) Part # - 21451-48G10 PLATE,CLUTCH DR

qty ( 1 ) Part # - 21441-48G40 PLATE,CLUTCH DR

qty ( 1 ) Part # - 21471-48G00 SEAT,WAVE WASHER

qty ( 1 ) Part # - 21472-48G10 WASHER,CLUTCH P

 

[Andy33]

The newer friction and steel plates are thinner than the 1st generation, so both stacks end up being the same height even though the newer version has more plates.
So you want to make sure you don't mix the two together and end up with a stack that is to tall.

I have never upgraded to the newer clutch plates on any of my bikes but here is the parts list that Harris has posted on this site many times.
If you use the search feature I am sure you can find several of his post that have this list if you want to double check it against what I have here.

Thanks for this.
In my searching I don't remember seeing that. Must have missed it.

Seems I'll have to replace the entire stack to avoid issues. I'll need to price all this out. I bet the wife wont like that bill.... 8) lol!
I really want this done once and for all.

 

[Stavros]

Good to know the mounts should still be good. thanks :bigthumbsup:

In a small way I'm happy to hear I'm not alone on this venture. If I could ask, what did you purchase to make up the new clutch?
I understand the springs and the pin mod, but the clutch plates is confusing me. Haven't had time to look at both schematics to compare part numbers. Not sure I if should just buy every plate/disc from a 2011+ clutch or if I only need a few new items?

went with more plates same size stack..there were quite a few minor changes in the 2011+ clutch..can't remember them all off the top of my head,like you,I've had it on the back burner for a while..I got pretty good at avoiding the shudder,so I stretched it out..figure I'd replace it all at 100K and be done with it..oredered complet setup and if memory serves me right it was about $900 Canadian right from a local dealer..I have a new basket,but it's the same and probably could do without that.
will get at it in December I hope..freind did his couple years back and it's holding up good..I rode it just after he did it and felt very nice..much easier pull on lever and was so nice to let it go off the line without worry

 

[Andy33]

I rode it just after he did it and felt very nice..much easier pull on lever and was so nice to let it go off the line without worry

I cant wait for that feeling.
Likely wont do the new basket. Strictly looking to change out the plates.

When you bought the plates did you just get what Bering_C_Sparky posted above? I'm counting the parts listed versus whats shown on the parts diagram and things don't look to be adding up.

Will need to do more searching and reading.

 

[Stavros]

If I come across my invoice when I dig the parts out of the rafters I’ll send it to you..

Stillfree had a 2011 clutch upgrade thread on here couple years back that had all parts listed..I ordered off his list

 

[Hogan109r]

Here s yours

One that is done
it isn't much
to much is not good!!
Im following this thread good luck
you are doing fine.

 

[Reaper313]

Is there anyone who lives in Arizona that help me with my 07 109r my tranny is totally locked up and also hi I'm new to the forum thing but I'm really trying to get my bully up and running again

 

[Andy33]

Is there anyone who lives in Arizona that help me with my 07 109r my tranny is totally locked up and also hi I'm new to the forum thing but I'm really trying to get my bully up and running again

There might be someone local that can help you. Probably best if you start a new thread asking. I'm up in Canada and other than updating this thread I likely wont be much help to you.

 

[Reaper313]

Ok thank you

 

[Andy33]

Eagerly awaiting the Black Friday codes to start ordering parts.
Saw MeanCycles had a 5% code (TURKEY). The discount isn't huge and even after discount parts "seem" to be cheaper at www.oneidasuzuki.com

Pricing is as follows;

MC- $427.50 USD ($567.80 CAD) after discount. (REVO kit includes more plates than buying individually- NO GASKET)
**With gasket and discount $450 USD (597.69 CAD)

1S- $394.19 USD. ($523.56 CAD) Includes only parts listed above plus gasket.

Yes, its not an apples to apples comparison. Based on this the One Suzuki setup is around $73.56 USD ($97.70 CAD) cheaper but is not a complete swap. My understanding is I'd have to reuse a few items.

Part of me thinks the extra money would be well spent to have a completely new clutch (REVO Kit) that can be installed with no issue. The cheapskate part of me thinks go the One Suzuki direction....

decisions, decisions....

Due to the exchange rate and only a 5% discount at MeanCycles, I'm likely going to pass on the EVO Shift star kit. Might get this at a later date.

 

[Bering_C_Sparky]

Eagerly awaiting the Black Friday codes to start ordering parts.
Saw MeanCycles had a 5% code (TURKEY). The discount isn't huge and even after discount parts "seem" to be cheaper at www.oneidasuzuki.com

Pricing is as follows;

MC- $427.50 USD ($567.80 CAD) after discount. (REVO kit includes more plates than buying individually- NO GASKET)
**With gasket and discount $450 USD (597.69 CAD)

1S- $394.19 USD. ($523.56 CAD) Includes only parts listed above plus gasket.

Yes, its not an apples to apples comparison. Based on this the One Suzuki setup is around $73.56 USD ($97.70 CAD) cheaper but is not a complete swap. My understanding is I'd have to reuse a few items.

Part of me thinks the extra money would be well spent to have a completely new clutch (REVO Kit) that can be installed with no issue. The cheapskate part of me thinks go the One Suzuki direction....

decisions, decisions....

Due to the exchange rate and only a 5% discount at MeanCycles, I'm likely going to pass on the EVO Shift star kit. Might get this at a later date.

Make sure you are comparing prices with shipping included as well.
Both Meancycles and Oneida are great places to get parts but sometimes Onieda's shipping prices can be on the high side......just something to be aware of.

 

[Hogan109r]

I’ve ordered from revo plenty of times
it isn’t over night or 2 or 3 days
More like 6 to 8 weeks!!

 

[Andy33]

Make sure you are comparing prices with shipping included as well.
Both Meancycles and Oneida are great places to get parts but sometimes Onieda's shipping prices can be on the high side......just something to be aware of.

Thank you for this. Luckily the order would be over MC's free ship amount so all in I feel they would be the better choice.
I'll need to go a bit further with the checkout at Onieda to get an exact comparison.

My sister is flying home with the parts at Christmas as she lives in Houston now. Us Canadian's need to be creative when it comes to shipping as International shipping along with duty/taxes can really hurt the wallet.
Taking a 30% hit on the dollar is bad enough...

 

[Andy33]

I've ordered from revo plenty of times
it isn't over night or 2 or 3 days
More like 6 to 8 weeks!!

I'd be ordering from MeanCycles so fingers crossed its in stock. Did send a parts request email to confirm.

 

[Andy33]

And MeanCycles for the win.

After discount and shipping factored in, MeanCycles price on the Revo Clutch kit and Gasket was $9 cheaper than the smaller parts list from OneideaSuzuki. (Oneidea's shipping prices were ridiculous)

Now I'll wait for my sister to fly home on Dec 23.

 

[Andy33]

Good news, my sister received a large box from MeanCycles yesterday.

**Apologies, I cant seem to figure out why the site rotates photos?

Next week I'm going to try and tackle the "Pin Mod" so I'm ready for my parts. Thankfully I've got about a week off at Christmas so I'd like to get this all installed while I'm off.

Really hoping this is going to fix my shifting issues.....

more to come.

 

[Andy33]

Happy New Year folks. Hope everyone had a great holiday break. We had a sick kid this year for Christmas so didn't get much time in the garage between that and other family.

Good news is I got my parts via my sister flying home with no tax/duty and baggage charges. And MeanCycles hooked me up with some great stickers for the beer fridge.

Still a few things to handle before I start the install.
- Push Pin Mod- need 3, 2mm wide flat spots ground in the pin.
- Want to find/rent the Honda tool to confirm the tubular nut is tight. (will add lock-tite)

Going to hit the local Honda dealer after work to buy discount tickets for the annual motorcycle show next weekend and will ask about getting the tool.
My brother works at an HVAC contractor and we are going to try and grind the pin in his shop. A bit nervous about this but should be straight forward.

Will get pics tonight. More to come....

 

[cbxer55]

Thank you for this, I'll check that spring tonight.

I have changed out the front motor mounts for the harder OEM ones years ago. After checking my maintenance log, I've put about 20,000 km on those since install. Good chance I should just change all 6 to the new poly ones but that might be a mod for next year. If I cant figure out this clutch thing I'll have to try this.

I have over 36,000 miles on my 06, never changed any of the motor mounts. Have zero issues with the transmission or shifting. The occasional shudder, but it's so rare I just deal with it IF it happens. Once or twice a year when the bike is cold. If it does it, it's only once. I'm not tearing into it at this point, I can deal with it.

 

[Andy33]

I have over 36,000 miles on my 06, never changed any of the motor mounts. Have zero issues with the transmission or shifting. The occasional shudder, but it's so rare I just deal with it IF it happens. Once or twice a year when the bike is cold. If it does it, it's only once. I'm not tearing into it at this point, I can deal with it.

Right on, seems like you've been lucky with that thing.