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You got that right... 0 people listened, or understood. It was a complete cluster phuck. But, at least no one got killed. I tried.:-\
We can put it in a coloring book for everone next year:bigthumbsup:
 

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Sorry one person listened......ME...That's why I didn't take part in any organized rides to dinner after that. That was a total cluster and someone could have easily been hurt or killed. One blocker who shall remain nameless left an intersection he was blocking and cut off a good friend of mine not once but twice. Total BS and I will not ride with people that ride like that.....Rant over.
 

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Sorry one person listened......ME...That's why I didn't take part in any organized rides to dinner after that. That was a total cluster and someone could have easily been hurt or killed. One blocker who shall remain nameless left an intersection he was blocking and cut off a good friend of mine not once but twice. Total BS and I will not ride with people that ride like that.....Rant over.
That very possibly was me. Yes, was a major mess. I know we will be having a class on blocking next year. No way should a front blocker have to wait till everyone is gone to be relieved to go back to the front---yes way dangerous. If it was me--I appologize and nothing intended.
 

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i listened. i had a passenger and i stayed in the back. im going to have to watch the video again to hear the rest. once you said that i quit listening.
hink, did you say something?
all kidding aside, the rides to dinner definately need some work. hell, the rides back were pretty scary too.
 

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That very possibly was me. Yes, was a major mess. I know we will be having a class on blocking next year. No way should a front blocker have to wait till everyone is gone to be relieved to go back to the front---yes way dangerous. If it was me--I appologize and nothing intended.
The front two blocks for everyone, all the way to the end of the line... Why do you need to get back to the front:dontknow: That the problem..
 

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The front two blocks for everyone, all the way to the end of the line... Why do you need to get back to the front:dontknow: That the problem..
Then there is no need for designated blockers---not the way it was set up---which didn't work anyways. The only other thing to that, is that some do not want to block---so they just go on by---way worse situation. In theory, both should work, but has to be totally talked about ahead of time---just sayn.
 

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dont sweat it guys. there s lots of room for improvement. we ve got a year to work it out. i have some ideas but its way too much to work out in a thread. the rides to dinner and back definately need to be more organized.
 

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I did this just to bring awareness to the situation, because it no fun riding in a big group that's not organized. I'm not blaming anyone because it not anyone's fault. We are a great group that can do great things. Just a little room for improvement.
 

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I did this just to bring awareness to the situation, because it no fun riding in a big group that's not organized. I'm not blaming anyone because it not anyone's fault. We are a great group that can do great things. Just a little room for improvement.
:agree:as i think we all do. we can all put our heads together and make it much safer. when you throw 100 bikes together to go to dinner it takes a bit of planning.
my vote is for all of us to go to t-buds house and work it out before next years meet.:joke::nojoke:. oh yeah, love ya hink!:bigthumbsup::nojoke:
 

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You know I would contact the local Blue Knights Chapter and see what they would charge to setup an escort for you guys to different locations like lunches or dinners. You may find that they would take donations to a local cause to cover escort cost.It would be reasonably inexpensive if everybody chipped in a couple of bucks and bought the guys lunch or a cold drink at different locals and it would be worth it. 9 Times out of 10 the proceeds will go to a fallen/injured biker so your helping your own.

Plus you'd have a true LEO escort with blue light and legal red light running and blocking.

Start here.

http://www.blueknightsvaiii.org/

Just saying. :a18:
 

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The front two blocks for everyone, all the way to the end of the line... Why do you need to get back to the front:dontknow: That the problem..
I gotta agree with you Tyler, it was really weird having guys zig zag through the pack to get to the front. If you know the route you are taking, especially with the large group, you should be able to tell how many blockers you will need. Assign these blockers before the ride and have them up front. After the intersection is cleared, they ride in the back.
 
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Although it wouldn't be the Knights that performed the escort....however they will know the local motor cops and I'm 1000% sure you can set something up with the local PD as their goal would be making sure the cluster F dosn't happen and all ride safe....whoever "sets this up" should get a date for next year as soon as they can and start the contact process of booking the motorsquad for whatever area you're going to be in....:bigthumbsup:

You know I would contact the local Blue Knights Chapter and see what they would charge to setup an escort for you guys to different locations like lunches or dinners. You may find that they would take donations to a local cause to cover escort cost.It would be reasonably inexpensive if everybody chipped in a couple of bucks and bought the guys lunch or a cold drink at different locals and it would be worth it. 9 Times out of 10 the proceeds will go to a fallen/injured biker so your helping your own.

Plus you'd have a true LEO escort with blue light and legal red light running and blocking.

Start here.

http://www.blueknightsvaiii.org/

Just saying. :a18:
 

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That was the biggest mess I've ever seen, and I was leading, so I apologize. Apparently no one knew how to find the place except me, and I wasn't prepared to lead a group that size. Never have and never will again, it just doesn't work. I wasn't planning on going with the group and didn't catch Hink's speech but then found out no one knew how to get there.

Last year didn't seem so bad but we had plenty of blockers. Matt was the only one I saw up front after the first stop. I'm not sure where everyone else went or if we even had more. I agree, next year needs to be better planned. And let someone with experience lead the group and do the blocking.
 

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I didn't join on any of the group rides to dinner (for various reasons), except for the very last night. And, I'm guessing that one was a little better than the first few nights (which I heard nightmare stories about, LOL), because I personally thought there was a great team effort from several people throughout the pack.

It seemed to me that if an intersection needed to be blocked, someone stepped up and took care of it. And, a number of people did some blocking on the highway portion of the ride, too. I was impressed at how so many people pitched in to keep the pack together and safe that night...I guess it just took us a few days to get the hang of it?? :dontknow:
 

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Then there is no need for designated blockers
Ideally you know how many intersections need to be blocked and have the appropriate amount of blockers in the front of the group when the ride begins. Having a civilian rider screaming past a large group of bikes is not only dangerous it's illegal too. If one of Va's finest had seen that spectacle we may not be welcome back there. No big deal though, just need to do better next time. Thanks Tbud for bringing this to the front. Can't hurt to talk about it.
 

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WHO'S HINK :dontknow: :joke: just kidding buddy I'll give ya a big round of:clap2:for trying.
 

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I'm sorry to hear about how this large group ride went. When your talking about 100+ riders coming from all over to meet and then ride in a organized & "disciplined" manner is asking alot.

If your in a ride club and are used to ridnig with 20+ bikes all the time you get to know your role and how to ride in a large group. When roadguards (blockers) do their thing at intersections you want to ride single file on the right side of the lane so that the roadguards can safety pass to get back up to the front. Then the road captain can then throw up the ride staggered sign once the roadguards are back up in position.

Honestly if your talking about 100+ bikes I'd personally think about breaking the group up into smaller groups to make it more managable. Or as was mentioned get the help of a good experienced local MC or ride club to help organize the ride and do the road guarding for the group.

But that takes practice and understanding by everyone in the group. In the case of the Mid-Atlantic meet it might be wise to post a "Group Ride Safety" thread that ALL MUST VIEW that plan on attending. Then whoever the road captain is gonna be can set the ground rules as to how the group ride will go (hand signals, spacing, speed, roadguard & tailgunner duties....etc).
 

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Here in Wisconsin it is the law to have a police escort with groups that large.Wow glad no one got hurt.
 
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