You had to watch really close on that one due to the quality of the video, but the driver of the car did nothing wrong.L-Train said:I needed to watch closer.Â What a moron.
That's assuming the driver of the car actually saw the biker in their mirror. The rider was hugging the yellow line, which means they weren't visible in the car's rear view mirror when he was waiting his turn to pass, and possibly only visible for a short period in the side view mirror... which even I don't check unless I'm going to pass somebody. As for not signaling, I don't understand why anybody would signal for staying on a main road that takes a 90 degree turn/curve. Do you turn on your signal when the road you are on takes a sharp 90 degree bend? I know I don't. The driver of that car is at no fault, and should not feel the least bit guilty of what happened. The driver of the bike was stupid, and stupid hurts.J R said:i would have thought the car seeing the one motorcycle pass it and the other in the mirror would have turned on the signal to turn knowing the outcome here
Now I know that riding with that attitude can make you more alert of your surroundings and more of a defensive driver, but let's be honest with ourselves. Nobody sets out to run you down. Nobody gets into their car and tells themselves, "Lets find some poor biker to run over today." People today are just inattentive and have too much shit going on around them distracting them from the job of driving. The main reason for M/C vs car wrecks is because people are always rushing. Trying to get somewhere in a hurry. This is why they don't take the time to really look before they turn. They just make a quick glance and when their mind doesn't register anything bigger than a Yugo, their mind gives them the "all clear" signal, and they go. Too much in a rush to look twice. Gotta hurry up and pass that line of cars so they take a quick glance and don't register the motorcycle coming in the other lane. Maybe they see the headlight with running lights and their brain registers it as distant car headlights since they look so close together. It's all because we are always in a hurry, or running late, or too damn distracted from all the crap going on in life to notice the important things like what's going on outside their cars. Still, that doesn't mean they are out to run us down. Just so happens everything I just mentioned as being the faults of the cagers is what got that biker in the video. He was in too much of a hurry, just had to pass that car, even though the lines in the road (that are double for a reason) told him to wait. He was so much in a hurry, and not paying attention to the sign that warned of a curve or heck even to the fact that the double yellow lines suddenly turned left just ahead. Does the fact that he was in such a hurry, or was inattentive, or distracted mean that he was out to run a cager down that day?polartek said:Someone is always trying to run you over
Guy had a shower hit him here in Austin during the R.O.T. Rally.... He didnt make it.......polartek said:What if that mattress falls off that car right in front of me? (I drove right into a big cardboard box that a semi-truck passed and kicked up right in front of me - bastard!)
What if some steel ladder that fell of a truck appears from underneath a car and I am not riding in the car's wheel paths with enough distance to react?Â (I am so glad I wasn't changing lanes when it jumped out.)
Not from what am told of drivers in NJ.Â Someone told me they had to stop riding because drivers in NY would make sport of tapping you from behind - regardless of speed.Medic1210 said:...Nobody sets out to run you down. ...Â
Again, this is just someone telling you this. Basically unsubstantiated story. The old saying comes to mind... Believe nothing you hear, and only half of what you see. You need to take that with a grain of salt so to speak.polartek said:Someone told me they had to stop riding because drivers in NY would make sport of tapping you from behind
That's pretty much what I said. If you keep that attitued, you will stay more alert and be more defensive.If you go with that 'paranoid' point of view, you will do your best to keep you and your bike out of positions that will get you hurt. You will be in a better position to react when some inattentive yahoo does try to mow you down (and they will try).
See, as bikers, we think of these things. We check our mirrors and actually look for bikes. Most likely that person in the van had no idea there was even another biker behind them in the first place. Probably focused all on the first idiot that passed them unsafely with a double yellow line and never even gave another thought to the possibility of another bike about to follow suit. Of course this is just an assumption, but I'm willing to bet not too far off the mark.J R said:if i was in the car i would have guessed the bike was gonna pass me tho and been watching