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Just came back from a 800 mile ride ,
did the last 100 miles SITTING IN A TOW TRUCK :edit:
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7 riders , at the last point where we were to split up
we stop , we all say good bye , a bunch leaves ,
I get on my bike and it refuses to start , tried everything
including guys pushing me downhill , the wheel just locked
all fuses OK , did not find anything .
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Got toed home 100 miles = $ 350.00 , reached home
tried to start bike while on the tow truck = no-go
back it up in my garage , first try = VROOM
all the good stuff I could
have bought for $ 350.00 , bling ,
250 tires , whatever ....
Right now I hate my bike .....
still won't tell me what the $#%#[email protected] happened :dontknow:
 

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Would it crank but not start, or not crank? I'd check the ground connection from the battery to the engine, if they get corrosion under them they act like that. Pop the right plastic side cover off and you can see where it connects.
 

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I had an issue like that not too long ago. (but my tow bill was $9 and some change after insurance) My power command connections went to crap. Had to soder them. After that it started right up.
That might be something to look into. Hope you'll find out what the cause of this was. Would hate to read about this happening to you again
 

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Discussion Starter · #4 · (Edited)
Thanks for reply ,
the bike was cranking every time , just not starting ...
i've been going thru the forums ,
just found a thread called : " LED indicators flashing problem "
where it is mentionned that the flashers ar somehow connected
to the kickstand wiring or relay or something , it is chiniese to
me at this time of night , last thing I did before this ride is hook
up my Mutazu bags lights and plugged them so that the flashers
work, I will look much more into this , also found that there is a
switch in the clutch lever , but I guess this one was Ok since the
bike was cranking , just not firing , I will try to find a way to
bypass the kickstand kill switch to see if it cures the problem
until I know exactly what happened ...so much to read :eek:
an other member found a loose connection under the gaz tank
( a red wire) and he soldered another wire ,(with a blade connection
in the middle )to bypass this connection that came loose all the time.
 

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i'm just asking to be clear, but you say your bike was cranking over and over but just not starting right?
 

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i'm just asking to be clear, but you say your bike was cranking over and over but just not starting right?
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Yes ,key ON ,clutch pulled in
red button kill switch on RUN position
I could hear the fuel pump pumping ,
got the speedo needle go all the way and back
got the RPM line go all the way and back
after waiting for all this normal stuff
I press the starter button , engine cranked but never started..
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I did try it with throttle wide open in case it was flooded
some friends said "don't do that it is a fuel injection bike
you will flood it" , I'm glad I did because with our bikes ,when
you open throttle wide open while starting you stop fuel
injection and run air through the chamber, found that in a thread
on the site here.
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like I said I have found other member's threads on this
I need to read some more about 3 things
1-the kill switch built into the clutch lever
2-the kill switch in the kickstand
3- something about the flashers wiring being included
in the kickstand killswitch wiring .
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I'm going to read some more and use the search ,
when my head is full I will attack the bike with service
manual in laptop beside me in garage ,
I am not going to ride around with a bike that is unreliable .
 

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Right after I got my bike I screwed up the plug under my gas tank - the one by the fuel line. I pulled the brown wire loose by mistake. Same intermittent symptoms. It took me forever to find that loose wire and ensure it was seated properly in the plug.

Was your tank off by any chance right before the problem started?

Once I did that the problem never returned.
 

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i hear ya, i wouldn't feel safe either if my bike had recently done what yours did. good luck with finding the problem, i hope you work it out. i'm sure some others will chime in today and post some suggestions and you will get it squared away. keep us posted.
 

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Discussion Starter · #10 · (Edited)
Was your tank off by any chance right before the problem started?

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pulled it off to install Stebel horn
I will add this to the checklist
in another thread a guy mentionned a brown wire
under the tank and later corrected to a yellow with red stripe wire
I'll get a magnifying glass and check and wiring under tank .
Thanks for adding one to the possibilities:bigthumbsup:.
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For Canadian M109R
no power commander , recent work = Stebel install (gaz tank lifted up)
and Mutazu bags wiring for runnung light and flashers
all worked fine for close to 800 miles ,
2 days of many stop and restart , flashers all working good
 

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Just push the wires into the brown plug (wiring harness side) where they connect to the tank to see if any may have pulled out at all. It's hard to tell visually, but you can see if they move in. If any are loose and don't 'click' when you push them in, the latch might have been damaged in the plug and you might need to secure it with silicone or another glue.

Good luck. I hope you find the cause definitively and it's a super easy fix!

Note: it happened to mine when I tried to raise the tank up without disconnecting the plug first... So if that's what you did, I'd start there!
 

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Discussion Starter · #12 ·
Problem SOLVED...
Hyper Pete was right , and that other fellow who's thread
I read yesterday during my search also even down to the
color of the wire.
I lifted the tank a few times in the last 3 years
most of times I just jam a piece of 2X4 or bigger between
the bike and the tank to hold it high enough to get to whatever
I want to reach .....never thinking I could pull a wire out
of its harness. Have a look :eek:

I think the pictures came out quite nice...

Of all the wires going to that harness the Yellow
with red stripe was the weakest link in the chain and
pulled out with its rubber grommet , I pushed it back in ,
making sure it is in the right position .
I am confident I will not get an intermittent electrical
problem and that this was the problem.
 

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Here's one more suggestion to consider...join the AMA. For $39.95 a year I get discounts on hotels,a 10% discount of all parts and accessories at BikeBandit, discounts on rentals,a pin, sticker,and a card. Oh yeah the card entitles you to free roadside assistance for the year.....fix a flat,gas if you run out, a jump start,....and towing FREE.....and it works for all your vehicles not just your motorcycle....just a thought, glad you got it fixed.
 

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AMA ... I guess that for people who live in the states
I am a canuck ... Montreal is where I live
I never needed any automobile club ,
every body in my family plays with cars
when it comes to my bike I was pretty sure that buying new
meant no problems , don't you love mechanic surprises.
 

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Here's one more suggestion to consider...join the AMA. For $39.95 a year I get discounts on hotels,a 10% discount of all parts and accessories at BikeBandit, discounts on rentals,a pin, sticker,and a card. Oh yeah the card entitles you to free roadside assistance for the year.....fix a flat,gas if you run out, a jump start,....and towing FREE.....and it works for all your vehicles not just your motorcycle....just a thought, glad you got it fixed.
:agree: I will be joining AMA soon
 

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I joined AAA and added the extra RV Plus protection. It gives you assistance for motorcycles. AAA will tow your bike up to 100 miles in an enclosed trailer. It also offers unlimited roadside assistance per year with unlimited gas fill ups, locksmith service, etc. I find it to be a pretty nice package and extra peace of mind when riding. :bigthumbsup:
 

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Great idea.....Will check CAA today and see if they offer similar package,Thanks Windy.....Kazimodo,glad your bike loves you again..:bigthumbsup:
 
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