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I completeted first oil change per M109 service manual. Attached are oil change instrucitons per M109 manual, and M109 maintenance chart. From now on, I will never pay dealer $100 to change oil on my bike...

Engine Oil:
Suzuki recommends the use of SUZUKI PERFORMANCE 4 MOTOR OIL or equivalent engine oil. Use of API SF/SG or SH/SJ with JASO MA.

Suzuki recommends the use of SAE 10W-40 engine oil.

Oil Filter: per suzuki, I used OEM filter sold by DLP: http://www.directlineparts.com/product.asp?pid=8482&str=290


 

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Oil changes are very easy to do yourself and cost way less than 100 bucks to do yourself. A couple of things to look out for when changing oil on this bike.

1) Be very careful with the drain plugs (there are 2 at the oil pan) they tend to strip very easy if you muscle them or cross thread them.

2) the Suzuki filter is a good filter as is the K&N or Amsoil filters. (Change it every oil change, cheap enough and gets out most of the oil except for some that you can not drain without a total motor tear down)

3) do some research and see which oil you would like to use. There are different feelings on oil weights and type. All good info. Just search "oil" and read away.

4) 15/3 oil level check is the way to go after the oil change. Takes time but is accurate.

5) I personally change the Final Drive fluid every oil change. It is not at all required but it takes about 5 mins to do and cost next to nothing to do as well.

6) save all receipts for the oil and filters you buy to show that you are taking care of the bike properly. They (Suzuki) can not void your warranty for doing your own oil changes. Although they will always try and bail out on any claim.
 

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Gonna sound dumb but whatever lol.. whats a 15/3 oil level check?? how much oil do they take anyways? just got my 109 2 weeks ago and plan to change over to synthetic next week..
 

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Gonna sound dumb but whatever lol.. whats a 15/3 oil level check?? how much oil do they take anyways? just got my 109 2 weeks ago and plan to change over to synthetic next week..
15/3 is when checking oil level. Run the bike for 15 mins, then let sit for 3. THEN check oil level (with the bike being level) If you put too much in too much oil, your left air filter will let you know. Not a good way to find out you over filled it.

The dumb question is the question not asked
 

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I got some 20W50 , (Mobil 1 , synthetic)
anybody else used that viscosity
without problems or not???
 

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Oil choice...

Hey,
I checked all of the Mobil 1 oils I could find recently and none carried the recommended additives...

Use of API SF/SG or SH/SJ with JASO MA.

Might wanna check before you use the oil... The additives are for your wet plate clutch life expectancy...
 

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Got the oil at Walmart , Montreal , one liter bottles
" API SG,SH/CF JASO MA "
Mobil 1 V-Twin motorcycle oil 20w50 4 cycle
Synthetic.
the additive seem to match don't they ?
for warmer summer riding I will try this one
a 2 day ride coming up , in the next 2 weeks
I will see if it is acting up....
 

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I use Suzuki performance 4-cycle engine oil SAE 10w-40. It meets or exceeds API SF/SG; SH/SJ with JASO MA. Its only 5.25 qt. It takes less then 4 qts. plus 6 dollar filter and u have an oil change for less then 30 dollars.
 

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Kazimodo I use the same 20w-50 here and no problem :bigthumbsup:

Seems to shift smoother and no puking

Dave
:bigthumbsup: Thanks Dave , I'll try this kind this time
at $ 13.27 a liter , we are far from the $6.00 price our
american brothers are talking about in another thread
the dollar almost at par and we still get robbed.
At least it is less than the $17.00 /liter
asked for at the Suzuki dealer.

Paid $14.00 + tax for filter , Sarmen 4 says they are
$ 6.00 in California , biking in Canada is a luxury as
oppposed to a hobby in the states.

While I'm at it $18.00 + tax for a quart of Amsoil synthetic gear oil .

Doing the job myself will cost me around $80.00 for oil change and diff oil change
maybe I should get a few filters shipped from states , even if it comes even
at least I will not encourage exageration...
 

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I completeted first oil change per M109 service manual. Attached are oil change instrucitons per M109 manual, and M109 maintenance chart. From now on, I will never pay dealer $100 to change oil on my bike...

Engine Oil:
Suzuki recommends the use of SUZUKI PERFORMANCE 4 MOTOR OIL or equivalent engine oil. Use of API SF/SG or SH/SJ with JASO MA.

Suzuki recommends the use of SAE 10W-40 engine oil.

Oil Filter: per suzuki, I used OEM filter sold by DLP: http://www.directlineparts.com/product.asp?pid=8482&str=290


This is all in the owners manaual dude!!! But cool that you work on your own bike. Don't really trust anyone to do it right anyway. Plan on doing my own work also.
 

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Don't forget to twist on the oil filter with your fingers one hand stop when they start to slip.
 

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I run the 15/50 Mobil 1 synthetic with a dash of Lucas. I'm up around 45,000 and have not touched my bike. I also run the Mobil gear oil in the hub.

When you change out the dyno oil I would advice you change out your first oil change early to flush out the dyno oil. Hub and motor. The dyno oil is nothing to mess with.

I also change out my oil at round 4,000. After that it starts to get clacky.
Now that i'm up on miles I just use the Lucas to add to the oil before a change.

Do not push this bike when its new and not seated.

I didn't feel a difference in this bike till I was up over 25,000. Now at over 40,000 she's smooth as silk. No 2 gear bag. The trans take just as long to brake in as the motor. She's a beast and should be treated as such.

Good luck with your new bike.
 

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I didn't feel a difference in this bike till I was up over 25,000. Now at over 40,000 she's smooth as silk. No 2 gear bag. The trans take just as long to brake in as the motor. She's a beast and should be treated as such.

Good luck with your new bike.
This is good to hear. I am about to turn 25,000 this week, and I must say, it seems to be running and shifting smoother. I have been thinking about switching to 20/50 at my next oil change.
 

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I run with 15/50. Its good for all seasons being here in New England. I read some good things about zink and what it does so i run with the 15/50 because it has it in it. :bigthumbsup:
 

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I use a full four quarts of Suzuki 20W-50 every 3000 miles. Never once had a problem. Don't have the puke problem either. And if I ever do, it'll end up in a bottle under the left engine side cover, that's where the hoses are routed to. As of yet, never had a drop of oil in it. I just put in four quarts and don't bother checking it the entire 3000 miles.
 

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My bike is weird!!!

I use a full four quarts of Suzuki 20W-50 every 3000 miles. Never once had a problem. Don't have the puke problem either. And if I ever do, it'll end up in a bottle under the left engine side cover, that's where the hoses are routed to. As of yet, never had a drop of oil in it. I just put in four quarts and don't bother checking it the entire 3000 miles.
Let me say something about this oil change TRICK (because it is a trick, at least for me)!

When I do mine, I flush the old oil and after drained I screw the plugs back on and always have to add 3 quarts first and idle the bike 15 minutes, turn it off and wait 3 minutes check oil level and add another 200 ml to ensure the level is full. If I ever do more oil than this, is gonna puke 100% of the times. My friend says he uses an entire jog of oil and he never has that issue, why? I just don't know! He has same bike as me, but he later told me he removes a couple more bolts (tiny on the sides) and he starts the bike for a few seconds to flush as much oil as he can. I don't know if this is a good idea but when he added this to his METHOD I understood the why he can pour that much oil in his bike without puking.

Now I always use MOBIL 1 Synthetic 10-40, It runs really smooth, shifts really smooth and never had a problem, I did try a couple of brands before and I could feel the difference, so MOBIL is my choice. I use the same (5-40) on my old reliable 2000 Tahoe and 225K miles and going strong.

So everytime that oil change comes into the forum, is interesting to see how many different ways of doing it exhist and it goes there to say that is not so easy when it comes down to avoid puking, at least for me.

But sure, I will always do mine and save the trip to the STEALER!!!
 
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