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It's like the M109R was designed almost exclusively for "ME". No kidding, even though I am returning to motorcycle after 30 years and have only one year of recent experience (worked hard on my 2008 C90T though) I love everything about this bike, the look, the simplicity or complete lack of gadget or modern update, the sound, the feel and ... the sheer brutality. Actually stating it's not modern is not true, all the mechanic, frame, suspension is modern, what's old school is the feeling and the controls, just the way I like it like other old school V-Twin cruisers. However I'm a dinosaur and part of a FADING (on the verge of extinction) market segment (old white protestant male).
It's my dream come true. I was dreaming of a V-Max (since the 80' when my riding friend had one), but after trying out a C90 for a year, I fell in love with big HD style V-Twin configuration. I tried out a large 4 inline (2014 FJR 1300) meanwhile for 6+ months just to make sure I would not regret and I HATED the 4 inline experience and decided to move on with big and more powerful V-Twins. Also it doesn't wobble at high speed or wiggle in corner like the V-Max 1200 since it's single rear suspension and actually modern frame.
Just got a brand new 2023 M109R, still burning in, love it, it's awesome. After first oil change, could go over 3500 RPM and started to taste the juice. Following burning procedure to the letter and did not go over 3500 RPM for the first 500 miles. Still under 5500 RPM for the next 500 miles but it's already VERY satisfying distribution of power.
I already had a 2008 C90T as re-introduction bike for the last year and love it so much. I also tried out a 2014 FJR1300 and hated it like the plague, no torque, full of failing gadgets and so on. And the worst of it, the FJR hurt my neck so bad due to sporty position. Was comfy though but it convinced me 4 inline was not for me I needed a V-Twin muscle cruiser instead.
I must say though, after riding my M109 only for 8 days, I find the (so called) pro reviews are not super accurate. Wannabe reviewer trying an M109R for one hour or one day are not able to tame it or get good performance out of it. You really have to tame that beast in order to do 0-60 or 40-80 in decent time or corner properly from 0-10 mph.
Also those saying this does not corner well, well hum, for me it corners better then my FJR and the power is distributed in such a way that I feel it safer to pass with the M109 then the FJR, because you have to get into very high rev (6000+) with the FJR to be able to pass, and by the time it kicks the speed is already out of control.
With the M109R, passing is safer because you get FAST right away and speed doesn't go out of control by the time you are passing other vehicles.
Ok, it's heavier but I find it so much safer to speed with the M109 since the low RPM torque gives full control. So the M109R is actually easier to tame then the FJR to my taste.
The difficult part to tame with the M109R is simply engaging turning left or right at an intersection from stop or any cornering at very low speed. You really have to master that clutch because the engine has so much torque already at 1200+ RPM, it's surprising. But that's what a "Muscle" car or bike is all about.
Cornering over 15 MPH is actually a blast. It's true it's a bit of a workout but it leans very well and I lean very much at low speed without ever scraping the pegs. I'm scraping my heels though but it's not making me jump as much as scraping the floor board of my C90, so it's not surprising me or redressing the bike like floor boards would do. I love to corner in town with the M109 and those stating it doesn't corner well should drive it for at least a week before jumping to conclusions, like with any bike as a matter of fact.
It's like the C90, the driving is INVOLVING, meaning it's not super easy compared to a bike half the weight, but that's what I like. I'm average height and light weight but love the workout this bike gives me, it keeps me alert and the adrenalin flowing and that's what I'm looking for, I don't care about bikes that makes you fall asleep on the wheel.
Also the shifter is smooth as hell. Yes the shifter has a long course to engage co0mpletely and makes a loud clunk, but it's very smooth, way better then the FJR which is very hard to shift. Like any other bikes I tried or owned in the past though (I also had a CBR 450 Nighthawk and GS-1150E during the 80') all shifter are smooth when you leave a fraction of a second to synchronize before shifting.
Mine came with steering bearing not tight enough and had a slight shift while steering left and right while not rolling. I had to argue with the idiot dealer mech to convince him to even look at it since this could become a wobble issue at high speed, but they finally fixed it after I threatened them to go fix it at another dealer and send them the bill. The idiot at the dealer tried to convince me this was a steering stabilizer causing this, but since he could not show me any documentation to prove this I could force them to fix it reminding him this was a SAFETY issue so they finally fixed it and it took only a few minutes. Amazing the lies dealers would come up to avoid fix issues on a 300 miles new bike. Why fixing it now (for free) when they could fix it after the 1 year warranty is over. Who cares if I die meanwhile right?
Also the dealer did not give me the passenger seat that come with it. After arguing and referring to both the manual and web site, they finally looked in the back store and found... my passenger seat, woohoo.
The dealer did not even set the tire pressure before letting me leave with it brand new. 10 lbs was missing on both tires (safety issue here?), making the bumps very hard on rear tire. After setting it to speck, was way safer and comfy.
I would not blame Suzuki for any of the issues I had, this was supposed to be part of the prep charges, the dealer should not let me leave the dealership without inspecting and fixing all of these issues. The manufacturer actually expects the dealer would do these, but the dealer is obviously more concerned about arbitration agreement then the actual user safety. Good thing my wife did not sign an arbitration agreement with this dealer
After the steering, the clutch, the rear break and the tire pressure were set properly (which I did all myself beside the steering bearing), it's a great safe bike that I hope to enjoy for years to come. I choose this bike for its reliability compared to all other V-Twin manufacturers available in my area.
Love the bike, hate the dealer.
It's my dream come true. I was dreaming of a V-Max (since the 80' when my riding friend had one), but after trying out a C90 for a year, I fell in love with big HD style V-Twin configuration. I tried out a large 4 inline (2014 FJR 1300) meanwhile for 6+ months just to make sure I would not regret and I HATED the 4 inline experience and decided to move on with big and more powerful V-Twins. Also it doesn't wobble at high speed or wiggle in corner like the V-Max 1200 since it's single rear suspension and actually modern frame.
Just got a brand new 2023 M109R, still burning in, love it, it's awesome. After first oil change, could go over 3500 RPM and started to taste the juice. Following burning procedure to the letter and did not go over 3500 RPM for the first 500 miles. Still under 5500 RPM for the next 500 miles but it's already VERY satisfying distribution of power.
I already had a 2008 C90T as re-introduction bike for the last year and love it so much. I also tried out a 2014 FJR1300 and hated it like the plague, no torque, full of failing gadgets and so on. And the worst of it, the FJR hurt my neck so bad due to sporty position. Was comfy though but it convinced me 4 inline was not for me I needed a V-Twin muscle cruiser instead.
I must say though, after riding my M109 only for 8 days, I find the (so called) pro reviews are not super accurate. Wannabe reviewer trying an M109R for one hour or one day are not able to tame it or get good performance out of it. You really have to tame that beast in order to do 0-60 or 40-80 in decent time or corner properly from 0-10 mph.
Also those saying this does not corner well, well hum, for me it corners better then my FJR and the power is distributed in such a way that I feel it safer to pass with the M109 then the FJR, because you have to get into very high rev (6000+) with the FJR to be able to pass, and by the time it kicks the speed is already out of control.
With the M109R, passing is safer because you get FAST right away and speed doesn't go out of control by the time you are passing other vehicles.
Ok, it's heavier but I find it so much safer to speed with the M109 since the low RPM torque gives full control. So the M109R is actually easier to tame then the FJR to my taste.
The difficult part to tame with the M109R is simply engaging turning left or right at an intersection from stop or any cornering at very low speed. You really have to master that clutch because the engine has so much torque already at 1200+ RPM, it's surprising. But that's what a "Muscle" car or bike is all about.
Cornering over 15 MPH is actually a blast. It's true it's a bit of a workout but it leans very well and I lean very much at low speed without ever scraping the pegs. I'm scraping my heels though but it's not making me jump as much as scraping the floor board of my C90, so it's not surprising me or redressing the bike like floor boards would do. I love to corner in town with the M109 and those stating it doesn't corner well should drive it for at least a week before jumping to conclusions, like with any bike as a matter of fact.
It's like the C90, the driving is INVOLVING, meaning it's not super easy compared to a bike half the weight, but that's what I like. I'm average height and light weight but love the workout this bike gives me, it keeps me alert and the adrenalin flowing and that's what I'm looking for, I don't care about bikes that makes you fall asleep on the wheel.
Also the shifter is smooth as hell. Yes the shifter has a long course to engage co0mpletely and makes a loud clunk, but it's very smooth, way better then the FJR which is very hard to shift. Like any other bikes I tried or owned in the past though (I also had a CBR 450 Nighthawk and GS-1150E during the 80') all shifter are smooth when you leave a fraction of a second to synchronize before shifting.
Mine came with steering bearing not tight enough and had a slight shift while steering left and right while not rolling. I had to argue with the idiot dealer mech to convince him to even look at it since this could become a wobble issue at high speed, but they finally fixed it after I threatened them to go fix it at another dealer and send them the bill. The idiot at the dealer tried to convince me this was a steering stabilizer causing this, but since he could not show me any documentation to prove this I could force them to fix it reminding him this was a SAFETY issue so they finally fixed it and it took only a few minutes. Amazing the lies dealers would come up to avoid fix issues on a 300 miles new bike. Why fixing it now (for free) when they could fix it after the 1 year warranty is over. Who cares if I die meanwhile right?
Also the dealer did not give me the passenger seat that come with it. After arguing and referring to both the manual and web site, they finally looked in the back store and found... my passenger seat, woohoo.
The dealer did not even set the tire pressure before letting me leave with it brand new. 10 lbs was missing on both tires (safety issue here?), making the bumps very hard on rear tire. After setting it to speck, was way safer and comfy.
I would not blame Suzuki for any of the issues I had, this was supposed to be part of the prep charges, the dealer should not let me leave the dealership without inspecting and fixing all of these issues. The manufacturer actually expects the dealer would do these, but the dealer is obviously more concerned about arbitration agreement then the actual user safety. Good thing my wife did not sign an arbitration agreement with this dealer
After the steering, the clutch, the rear break and the tire pressure were set properly (which I did all myself beside the steering bearing), it's a great safe bike that I hope to enjoy for years to come. I choose this bike for its reliability compared to all other V-Twin manufacturers available in my area.
Love the bike, hate the dealer.
