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I tried 3 times tonight in a nice dry parking lot and I did get it to spin a little but it hopped too, and the bike also hopped forward on the front tire....

NOW My cluthc slips :verymad: :verymad: after just 3 tries?? It even feels different. It used to engage about 1/2 way out from the bar but now I have to release it the whole way to get it to engage.
Could I have really messed it up in 3-4 tries over 90 seconds??

Here is what I did.
I stood over the bike
Manipulated my hand to grab the brake and turn the throttle
Smoothly/quickly let out the clutch.... Bucking Bronco time!
 

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Okay. There are a couple of things that you can do.

Also you can PM JR who is the burnout specialist.

Also what RPM are you dropping it at?

1st While you are practicing / learning you might look for a wall or curb to put your front tire up against.

2nd Your tire is bucking because it's getting traction. You need to get it up higher in the rev range. When it bucks floor it and it should break it loose or engage at a higher RPM to begin with.

Yes you could have fried your clutch but I hope not. Just adjust it and it should be okay. I don't know how fast you are letting it out but you should probably be letting it out quicker. Some guys just dump it. When you are doing a burnout it has to give somewhere, you want it to give at the tire and not the clutch. I would try my RPMs a little higher and engage the clutch even quicker. I am dropping it at 4500 RPM and immediately opening the throttle all the way. Once it's in 2nd I modulate the throttle to keep it going.

If you can get it to the top of first shift super fast and send it into second and that's where you will get your real burnout.

I also forgot to check out where you live. Here in Utah I live at 5300 ft above sea level and my power is much less than a guy in AZ or CA or FL (you get the picture) You might need more revs the higher you live because of your HP.
 

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L-Train said:
Okay. There are a couple of things that you can do.

Also you can PM JR who is the burnout specialist.

Also what RPM are you dropping it at?

1st While you are practicing / learning you might look for a wall or curb to put your front tire up against.

2nd Your tire is bucking because it's getting traction. You need to get it up higher in the rev range. When it bucks floor it and it should break it loose or engage at a higher RPM to begin with.

Yes you could have fried your clutch but I hope not. Just adjust it and it should be okay. I don't know how fast you are letting it out but you should probably be letting it out quicker. Some guys just dump it. When you are doing a burnout it has to give somewhere, you want it to give at the tire and not the clutch. I would try my RPMs a little higher and engage the clutch even quicker. I am dropping it at 4500 RPM and immediately opening the throttle all the way. Once it's in 2nd I modulate the throttle to keep it going.

If you can get it to the top of first shift super fast and send it into second and that's where you will get your real burnout.

I also forgot to check out where you live. Here in Utah I live at 5300 ft above sea level and my power is much less than a guy in AZ or CA or FL (you get the picture) You might need more revs the higher you live because of your HP.
I was not quite so scientific about it. I was just sort of doing it so I dont know how high the revs were.
I am not getting the throttle/brake control done right either I believe. It was difficult to add throttle while keeping a firm grip on the clutch.

Really? Fried my clutch that fast??? I hope not.
 

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Nah, you didn't fry it. Just adjust it a little.


Just use your index on the brake. You can dial it in to a closer number to bring it closer if you need to.

4000 to 4500 should do you on the revs. Just like when I launch at a light my perfect launch is about 3200.

Not trying to be to scientific, just taking specific actions to get specific results.
 

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J R said:
Ya gotta stand up lean the bike forward or push down on the front as much as possable and the real trick is to squeeze your legs knees together helping to hold the bike on the inital launch of the clutch then rev it up to around 6500 the higher you rev it the easier due to the drive shaft then dump it don't slide it like at the track which lifts the back of the bike and actually will lift the bike tire off the ground a bit taking some of the load off just for as second till the bike settles back down and by that time you should be burning thru first gear real well.Now once she starts doing pretty good ya wanna do a show stopper cause lets face it with the short first gear ratio ya don't get much wheelspeed and wheelspeed is what makes smoke so ya very quickly while your holding every thing still ya pop her in second gear and then she will be boiling and you can just hold the Front brake with one hand and wave to the crowd with the other 8) Also asphalt is easy to do it on Cement is alot harder so watch where ya do your burn out fresh asphalt with sealer is child's play an asphalt street is next easiest and cement is sometimes hard ya really gotta hold the bike with your legs.This goes for any bike. :bigthumbsup:
Words from one of the masters...
Let me get my clutch issues settled and I will try again

Sledzep
 

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Lamonster said:
This was on a buddies bike and I ran it till the tire popped. :bigthumbsup: :doorag:
http://media.putfile.com/ValkyrieBoss-Hoss-Burnout
So to get that rolling burnout at the end...Hmmm lets see I will need

The timing/top speed limiter trick
New intake
Probably a new exhaust
Lose 100lbs
More experience
and a new set of balls to with that experience :bigthumbsup:

I'll get there
 

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sledzep01 said:
So to get that rolling burnout at the end...Hmmm lets see I will need

More experience and a new set of balls to with that experience :bigthumbsup:
I'll get there
There was a manufacture flaw with the M109R that affected only about one in every twenty bikes made that will render it unable to burnout in most conditions. Suzuki has not fully accepted responsibility for it yet though. Basicially the problem is in the control unit on top of the bike. On most bikes you should be able to locate two round (ball shaped) units that enable the engine power to release in short burst capable of burning the rear end up. On some bikes these balls that are in the control unit on top of the bike are too small (not enough clearence) and the bike won't burn the rear tire on quick throttle bursts. It does not affect the bikes ability to go fast, especially in a straight line, but there are some issues that affect cornering. I would bring the bike back to the dealer and have them check to see if your balls are big enough. If that is the problem then there is no easy fix, but over time you should notice the problem works itself out.

Rice Burner Out 8)
 

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Rice Burner said:
There was a manufacture flaw with the M109R that affected only about one in every twenty bikes made that will render it unable to burnout in most conditions. Suzuki has not fully accepted responsibility for it yet though. Basicially the problem is in the control unit on top of the bike. On most bikes you should be able to locate two round (ball shaped) units that enable the engine power to release in short burst capable of burning the rear end up. On some bikes these balls that are in the control unit on top of the bike are too small (not enough clearence) and the bike won't burn the rear tire on quick throttle bursts. It does not affect the bikes ability to go fast, especially in a straight line, but there are some issues that affect cornering. I would bring the bike back to the dealer and have them check to see if your balls are big enough. If that is the problem then there is no easy fix, but over time you should notice the problem works itself out.

Rice Burner Out 8)
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Thats good stuff. I only weigh 160 lbs and have problems with the front end pushing when I try to do a burn out. I'm coming off a 04 R1 which I melted tires on all the time, so its not a experience factor for me. This bike is so much different than a sportbike though that I need to learn how to do it on the 109.
 

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rofl rice burner.

as to the original question...
if you aren't putting up against a stationary object, you can lift the rear of the bike up a bit by braking hard on the front, and pushing the bike forward. you won't get this heavy beast to lift off unless you are a power lifter, but you will lighten the load a bit, and make it easier to break away.
 

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Rice Burner - freakin' hilarious man! :a20: :a18:
I think we're over doing it here.

Rev the bike fairly high, drop the clutch, hang on and accelerate more as you're launching.

If it didn't work, you need to up the amount of starting power.

If you wheelied, you're getting too much traction, lean forward a bit.

Practice in a parking lot!!!!!!!!!! Burnout's have a tendency to push you off the straight line and you will have to counter steer out of them.

(Watch Lamont on that strip in the vid above... that's a good job of steering through it and maintaining it) :bigthumbsup:
 

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Be Careful :D After a while, durning burnout lift up both legs and place on pegs and hold on....Talk about Bucking Bronco, When that tire sticks that front tire is coming off the ground, It surprised the hell out of me the first time,Totally Awsome..
 

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JR,

I really enjoyed your tutorial on burnouts, makes since and I did pick up a few pointers. How about doing one on wheelies????
 
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