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Here's what the 280 is going to look like on our bike. 8) I think it looks great and there is plenty of clearance all around. :D This will be an easy boltup with no swingarm or fender mods. 8)



This is all three tires side by side.

On the right is a 240mm (9.5"+ or -)
In the middle is a 280mm (10.5" + or -)
On the left is a 300mm (12" + or -)

 

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right on :beer2:
 

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280 is too big for our rim. We are making a rim that will look like stock so a guy could buy a 280 setup and polish his stock front and still have a matching set. I guess he could powdercoat the rear if he wanted too. By the way Hal said that this 240 on our bike is the same size as the 250, they just measure it different. I don't know all the details on that but I wouldn't buy a 250 just because you think it's going to look wider. ::)

Did you notice what a nice profile the 280 has? Lot better than the stock 240. 8)
 
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280 is too big for our rim. We are making a rim that will look like stock so a guy could buy a 280 setup and polish his stock front and still have a matching set. I guess he could powdercoat the rear if he wanted too. By the way Hal said that this 240 on our bike is the same size as the 250, they just measure it different. I don't know all the details on that but I wouldn't buy a 250 just because you think it's going to look wider. ::)

Did you notice what a nice profile the 280 has? Lot better than the stock 250. 8)

Well kinda. Its just that Dunlop has oversized their 250 to be bigger than the Metzeler 260.
 

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280 is too big for our rim. We are making a rim that will look like stock so a guy could buy a 280 setup and polish his stock front and still have a matching set. I guess he could powdercoat the rear if he wanted too. By the way Hal said that this 240 on our bike is the same size as the 250, they just measure it different. I don't know all the details on that but I wouldn't buy a 250 just because you think it's going to look wider. ::)

Did you notice what a nice profile the 280 has? Lot better than the stock 250. 8)
Lamont: I just ordered a Dunnie 250/40-R18 from HDL based on some actual observations of both the Dunnie 240/40-R18 on the 109 and a Dunnie 250/40-R18 on a Victory Hammer. Both bikes have 8.5" wide rear rims. On the Suzuki the outermost sidewall of the 240 is almost flush with the rim when observed from the rear of the bike. When you make the same observation of the 250 on the Hammer the outer most edge of the side wall extends beyond the rim by approximately 1/4" on each side. According to Dunnie tire specs the 10mm difference between the two tires is a tad over 3/8". I guess I'll know for sure when I remove the dead carcase of the 240 and install the 250. That may be awhile as I have 1100 miles on the 240 and it appears to be wearing well.
 

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Lamont: I just ordered a Dunnie 250/40-R18 from HDL based on some actual observations of both the Dunnie 240/40-R18 on the 109 and a Dunnie 250/40-R18 on a Victory Hammer. Both bikes have 8.5" wide rear rims. On the Suzuki the outermost sidewall of the 240 is almost flush with the rim when observed from the rear of the bike. When you make the same observation of the 250 on the Hammer the outer most edge of the side wall extends beyond the rim by approximately 1/4" on each side. According to Dunnie tire specs the 10mm difference between the two tires is a tad over 3/8". I guess I'll know for sure when I remove the dead carcase of the 240 and install the 250. That may be awhile as I have 1100 miles on the 240 and it appears to be wearing well.
Take some pictures when you get it. I may have the 250/260 confused with the 240. :redfaced: It's funny that the 280 looks big but not too big. I think that's the tire I'm going to stick with. I'll let my bud Rob have the really fat tires. :evil:
 

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Take some pictures when you get it. I may have the 250/260 confused with the 240. :redfaced: It's funny that the 280 looks big but not too big. I think that's the tire I'm going to stick with. I'll let my bud Rob have the really fat tires. :evil:
Will do! I have a digital camera.....all I have to do is master the art of transferring pictures to the computer and getting them into my posts. I'm challenged at this time in that area of electronic media :) :) :)

P.S. I'm with you on the 280...that would be a awesome addition to the rear of the 109 :D :D :D
 

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In looking at the stock setup you can see it's too much rim width for the width of the tire, that's also the reason the profile on the stock 240 is so flat, it's stretched out, I want a much higher rounder profile as well as more width so the sidewall actually conforms around the lip of the rim.
I'm anxious to see whether the 250 dunlop or the 260 metzeler will best accomplish this.
The 280 looks perfect but I need to stick with an 8.5 rim, my eventual intent is a chain drive conversion using much lighter PM wheels in black of course.
 

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Please correct me if I am crazy though it appears to me that the 280 doesn't look much bigger than the 240 in comparison. Specially when you look at the cost involved to go to a 280! There is a significant difference though with the 300.
 

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Please correct me if I am crazy though it appears to me that the 280 doesn't look much bigger than the 240 in comparison. Specially when you look at the cost involved to go to a 280! There is a significant difference though with the 300.
On the right is a 240mm (9.5"+ or -)
In the middle is a 280mm (10.5" + or -)
On the left is a 300mm (12" + or -)

It's not for everyone but there are those who will buy the bigger tire kits. I know of at lease three 109's that will have a fat tire kit. ;)
 

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In looking at the stock setup you can see it's too much rim width for the width of the tire, that's also the reason the profile on the stock 240 is so flat, it's stretched out, I want a much higher rounder profile as well as more width so the sidewall actually conforms around the lip of the rim.
I'm anxious to see whether the 250 dunlop or the 260 metzeler will best accomplish this.
The 280 looks perfect but I need to stick with an 8.5 rim, my eventual intent is a chain drive conversion using much lighter PM wheels in black of course.
Omega: Exactly as you have stated.....when I observed the 250 on the Victory Hammer it was rounder and completely hid the lip of the rim....I you have a Victory Dealer in your area, pay a visit and check out the actual fitting of the Dunnie 250 to the 8.5" rim......seeing is believing.

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OK Help me out here. In looking at all 3 sizes you can definately see the different shapes right away. I am assuming the 240 is still mounted to our rear wheel. Helping it to be flatter? The 280 has a pronounced center section and the 300 looks flatter like ours...
I am assuming the bigger 2 are unmounted.
SO...
Why would I want it noticiably higher in the center? Looks? Turns better? More grip while turning? Thinner contact patch so yoy can write your name in rubber more easily??
With my cars/trucks I have adjusted this fit in the past for the look I wanted. BUT I have less experience/confidence with my bike. I LOVE! the way it handles now and would not want to change that too much.

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Handling will improve I wouldnt do it otherwise, it will actually hold a line better instead of wanting to roll back to the center of the tire.
 

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Here's what the 280 is going to look like on our bike. 8) I think it looks great and there is plenty of clearance all around. :D This will be an easy boltup with no swingarm or fender mods. 8)



This is all three tires side by side.

On the right is a 240mm (9.5"+ or -)
In the middle is a 280mm (10.5" + or -)
On the left is a 300mm (12" + or -)

Is that first pic a mockup or is it on a wheel? I am curious how it changed the ride.
 

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I believe the 280 is to be mounted on a 10.5" rim. Maybe Rob can say for sure.
280 is for a 10.00 rim and 300 is on a 10.50 rim.
Blurry side by side comparison.

250E3, 280, 300, 330, and 360
 
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