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Our friend David Stomackin (Xon57) decided earlier today that he had no choice but to kill his wife and then himself. She had been battling alcoholism for a long time, and he had been faithful to her for 30 years. I guess everyone has their snapping point.

Those of us that knew him, knew he had a very good and fun-loving heart. He loved riding his motorcycle and playing golf, and I enjoyed every moment I spent with him.
Please pray for God to forgive his actions, and pray for his two children that are left behind. I can't imagine what they are going through.
He will be truly missed.

I don't have all the details yet and I will pass any information on to everyone as soon as I know something, but I do know He will be missed and loved greatly!
 

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ARE YOU F***ING SERIOUS??!! I really hope this isn't a prank. If not I don't believe it. I just met the guy a couple times and I really liked him. He seemed so mellow and like a really nice, genuine guy.

Tell me this isn't true.
 

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ARE YOU F***ING SERIOUS??!! I really hope this isn't a prank. If not I don't believe it. I just met the guy a couple times and I really liked him. He seemed so mellow and like a really nice, genuine guy.

Tell me this isn't true.
I wish I could tell you it wasn't true! Trust me I had to read my email at least 4 times to make sure I was reading it correctly. :'(
 

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I wish I could tell you it wasn't true! Trust me I had to read my email at least 4 times to make sure I was reading it correctly. :'(
I am truly shocked and it makes me sick to my stomach. I only had a couple nice long talks on the phone with him and two rides together and he would be about the last kind of person on the planet that I would figure to do something like this.

You guys knew him longer and better than me so I can only imagine how you must feel.

If everyone is even in the mood to ride on Saturday anymore at the very least we need to wear some sort of armband patch of some kind with his name on it and honor him on that ride as well as dedicate the ride video to him in some way. He will be truly, truly missed. Christ Almighty!
 

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Honestly if you guys could find some black duct tape and we write Xon57 on it in or white 2" masking tape with black letters and we put it on the back of our helmets or make quick armbands would be fine on such short notice.

I would be willing to see if FireFighter could do an actual quality patch in remembrance of David and anyone that wanted to purchase one maybe the proceeds could go to his kids. Just as a token of good will from his riding buddies.
 

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Are you kidding me :dontknow:

A guy MURDERS his wife and you guys want to honor him :dontknow:

Unbelievable
It's more complicated than that but I understand why you would say that. I think we miss and they miss the person they come to love and like and who we thought he was.

We're still in shock & sometimes it's hard to think clearly so soon after something like this.

I know Lucky isn't going tomorrow and I think that I'm not really in the mood to ride & video tape tomorrow either so I'm officially cancelling the ride for myself. Others can make their own decision about it.
 

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Are you kidding me :dontknow:

A guy MURDERS his wife and you guys want to honor him :dontknow:

Unbelievable
I have to agree with that statement. I don't think its right that you guys are planning to honour someone that purposely took another person's life before he ended his own.

Answer this: If he had murdered his children, would you still be honouring him? Your answer to that will tell you if he should he honoured or not.
 

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I have been a close to a few suicides and have known about a murder suicide and it is certainly one of the most difficult situations to try to understand. The hell some people go though to the point where they are completely hopeless and rationalize this as the only option is not something the rest of us would be able to comprehend. Hopefully for the children someone in the family will give them the love they will need to work though this shocking event and I will pray for that. Condolences to those that knew them but don't try to figure this out...bad things happen to good people and good people do bad things.
 

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I have been a close to a few suicides and have known about a murder suicide and it is certainly one of the most difficult situations to try to understand. The hell some people go though to the point where they are completely hopeless and rationalize this as the only option is not something the rest of us would be able to comprehend. Hopefully for the children someone in the family will give them the love they will need to work though this shocking event and I will pray for that. Condolences to those that knew them but don't try to figure this out...bad things happen to good people and good people do bad things.
Well said Gramps.
 

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I have to agree with that statement. I don't think its right that you guys are planning to honour someone that purposely took another person's life before he ended his own.

Answer this: If he had murdered his children, would you still be honouring him? Your answer to that will tell you if he should he honoured or not.
I understand what you guys are saying and quite frankly I only knew him the last two months but I really liked him and he seemed like the complete opposite of someone who would do something like that, if in fact this is true. My instinct and impression on him have been reinforced to be correct after talking to other GA members that have gotten to know him and ride with him for 3yrs or more. Literally not a single bad thing could be said about the guy and it just dosen't seem possible that he could do this. Everyone seems to have liked & respected him.

I don't even really know why I'm responding to this & I'm certainly not the spokesman for the "GA Crew" as I'm a new guy myself around here so I'll make this my last post on this matter.

This is something that we'll have to think about and in the end perhaps we'll do nothing at all after the dust settles.

- Tomorrow's ride is offically cancelled.
- No tribute ride video is going to be made.
- No armbands or patch are going to be made.

Perhaps it's best for each of us to deal with this on an individual basis.
 

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I have been a close to a few suicides and have known about a murder suicide and it is certainly one of the most difficult situations to try to understand. The hell some people go though to the point where they are completely hopeless and rationalize this as the only option is not something the rest of us would be able to comprehend. Hopefully for the children someone in the family will give them the love they will need to work though this shocking event and I will pray for that. Condolences to those that knew them but don't try to figure this out...bad things happen to good people and good people do bad things.
Well put. Hopefully there is someone who will be there for the children.
 

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Are you kidding me :dontknow:

A guy MURDERS his wife and you guys want to honor him :dontknow:

Unbelievable
First off SilverHorse, I could give a rats ass what you think!!!

With that being said, I do however have to say I am not honoring David for what he has done and I do not condone it in any way. However I will honor the man that I grew to care for and the man that I knew he was. So if I want to do a honor ride for someone I don't need your blessing nor anyone else's, I am doing it for the reasons I feel is right.

I have to agree with that statement. I don't think its right that you guys are planning to honour someone that purposely took another person's life before he ended his own.

Answer this: If he had murdered his children, would you still be honouring him? Your answer to that will tell you if he should he honoured or not.
Like I said before I would not and am not honoring him for what he did. I do find any suicide/murder a selfish act but that doesn't mean I don't care for the guy and miss him dearly!!

It's more complicated than that but I understand why you would say that. I think we miss and they miss the person they come to love and like and who we thought he was.

We're still in shock & sometimes it's hard to think clearly so soon after something like this.

I know Lucky isn't going tomorrow and I think that I'm not really in the mood to ride & video tape tomorrow either so I'm officially cancelling the ride for myself. Others can make their own decision about it.
:bigthumbsup: Exactly!! Most of us cannot and will not understand why things like this happen or what could drive someone to do this, we were not in his shoes and don't know the whole story, but I'm not saying that makes it right! I not only hate it for David and his Wife , but I really hate it for his Kids and the rest of the family. David was a caring and kind person and I can say that because I did see it in him through his actions and long heart felt discussions. I've racked my brain all day trying to figure this out, what would drive someone to do such a thing no matter how bad things are. But, I've come to terms that I cannot answer that for I have not been in such a situation.

Like GeorgiaRoller said I will not be riding tomorrow. My head is not in this and I am not about to get on the bike without a clear mind. I am still trying to get a hold of someone that may have some arrangements and I will pass them on as soon as possible.
 

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Silver, Canadian...no offense, but step the hell off.

Maybe "honor" was the wrong word to use. Maybe it should have been "remember" or "think about" or "say goodbye".

We're all just completely floored, gutted, lost, confused and all the other baggage that goes with this sort of thing. You're trying to turn it into some half-assed political debate about right and wrong.

We all loved David. He was a great guy. That's the David we all knew and will all sorely miss. So how about give us that and save your own self righteousnous for someone that gives a **** about what you think.
 

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Silver, Canadian...no offense, but step the hell off.

Maybe "honor" was the wrong word to use. Maybe it should have been "remember" or "think about" or "say goodbye".

We're all just completely floored, gutted, lost, confused and all the other baggage that goes with this sort of thing. You're trying to turn it into some half-assed political debate about right and wrong.

We all loved David. He was a great guy. That's the David we all knew and will all sorely miss. So how about give us that and save your own self righteousnous for someone that gives a **** about what you think.
I think that sums stuff up pretty well. :bigthumbsup:
 
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