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    Well I know this should be a simple deal but seeing the dealers are having so much trouble getting it right I thought I would do a little step by step Lamonster style. You should do your first oil change at about 600 miles and then about every 4000 miles or so after that.

    I'm guessing you have a new oil filter and at least 4 quarts of oil ready to go, if so you are ready to change your oil on your 109.

    After you have let your bike warm up for awhile the first thing you need to do is find an oil pan to dump your oil and oil filter in. If you don't have one handy you should be able to find something in the kitchen that will work. I used my wife's deep frying pan, that held just the right amount. I figure I can sneak it in the dishwasher before she figures out it's gone.

    Now getting the filter off is up to you. I didn't have that special tool from Suzuki and I didn't have a K&N Filter that has the nut on the end so you can just put a wrench on it so I used this piece of junk strap wrench that I've had since the 80's and have yet to find anything that it worked on. ::) I guess this was my lucky day because it did the trick, or it may be because I used my "Easy" button first. Spin the filter off and let it drain in the frying pan. The oil is going to be a little warm so don't burn yourself.




    If you want you can put the new filter on now, that way you can move the pan over to the drain plugs, that is unless your wife has a really big frying pan then you can leave it be.

    When you put the filter on make sure there is a little oil on the O-ring, this will help it to seal. This is the first oil filter that I've seen that the book tells you not to tighten it by hand ::) I guess that shouldn't surprise me because this is the first bike I've owned that I had to let it run for 15 min. before checking the oil. ::) The book says to use your Suzuki tool and tighten to 14.5 lb-ft or two full turns after the O-ring touches the block. I happen to have calibrated manly hands so I did it Lamonster style, you do what you want.

    Once again the book tells you to put the bike upright and remove both drain plugs. Looks to me that you will get more oil out it you leave it on the side stand so that's what I did. Get yourself a 17mm wrench and pop out both drain plugs and let all the oil drain into the frying pan. After it's done dripping go ahead and put the plugs back in and tighten them up. I used my manly calibrated hands again but the book says to tighten them to 16.5 lb-ft. Now go dump the oil wherever you feel good about it and hide the pan for washing later.



    Now that you got your new oil filter on and tight, your drain plugs back in and tight and your oil desposed of and the frying pan hid you are ready to fill it back up with oil.

    Now I'm not going to tell you what oil to use and why so don't ask. I'm using Amsoil synthetic motorcycle oil 10W-40 because ever since I started using it my teeth are brighter, my breath is fresher, I have lost over 20 lbs and my pants fit better.



    Now the book says it's going to take 3.8 quarts for an oil change and a filter. I would hold off on putting that much in till you check your oil first.

    I put in a little over 3 quarts and then let the bike idle for 15 min. and let it cool for 3 min. and added what I needed. As you can see from the picture it wasn't quite 3.8 quarts and if I had put that much in I may have been puking oil again. Best thing to do is start off a little low an add from there. Make sure the bike is upright and you don't screw the dipstick in when you check your oil.



    That's all there is to it. Ride the bike around and then check your oil again and check for leaks and you should be good to go.

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    I used a cat litter box (small one) for the drain plugs and a 1 gallon oil jug with the side cut out to drain the filter into, that way I could let the drain plugs drip out while getting the filter change done

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    I was curious, will it hurt this bike by idling for 15 minutes, or is that just fine on it?

    Also, I know this sounds dumb, but could you take a picture of the oil dipstick, showing where it is best to have it at? I've checked it and it has been hard to get a good reading as it is so runny...

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen
    I was curious, will it hurt this bike by idling for 15 minutes, or is that just fine on it?

    Also, I know this sounds dumb, but could you take a picture of the oil dipstick, showing where it is best to have it at? I've checked it and it has been hard to get a good reading as it is so runny...
    The book tells you to let it run, that's the only way to check the oil on this bike unless you check it after a ride.

    I'll see if I can get a pic tomorrow.

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    We must both be going on a trip cause I changed mine tonight also.¬* Took out 3 quarts and put 3 back in.¬* Putted around for 15 minutes and then checked the dipstick after 3 minutes.¬* A little low so I added about 1/3 of a quart.¬* Will check it again tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HalGreenlee
    We must both be going on a trip cause I changed mine tonight also. Took out 3 quarts and put 3 back in. Putted around for 15 minutes and then checked the dipstick after 3 minutes. A little low so I added about 1/3 of a quart. Will check it again tomorrow.
    Glad it went well.

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    love the easy button

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    20 pounds you say I gots to try that maybe I will be able to fit in my 4xl Suzuki Jacket

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    A question about changing to Synthetic. When you change the oil there is always some residual left in the case and sheared on parts. How does that effect changing from stock oil to the Synthetic? There's no need to do some kind of flush before going over from regular to Synthetic - and if there is some small residual of regular oil that's ok

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    Is there a trick to get the old crush washers off ?? I had to grab them with vise grips and thread them off PITA!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper
    Is there a trick to get the old crush washers off ?? I had to grab them with vise grips and thread them off PITA!!
    Never took mine off and no leaks. The book doesn't say anything about replacing them either.

    Quote Originally Posted by jazzman
    A question about changing to Synthetic. When you change the oil there is always some residual left in the case and sheared on parts. How does that effect changing from stock oil to the Synthetic? There's no need to do some kind of flush before going over from regular to Synthetic - and if there is some small residual of regular oil that's ok
    Unless you are doing an engine rebuild you will never get all the old oil out of it. I've never worried about it to tell you the truth and I don't see a real problem with them mixing a bit, it's still oil.

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    When you check the oil the bike is "upright" ?.
    Is it:
    1) On the Stand
    2) Someone holding the bike upright
    3) A 2x4 under the stand to get the bike "pretty close" to upright ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felix T Cat
    When you check the oil the bike is "upright" ?.
    Is it:
    1) On the Stand
    2) Someone holding the bike upright
    3) A 2x4 under the stand to get the bike "pretty close" to upright ?
    At the time I stuck my lift under it just enough to hold it upright but you can do it sitting on the bike.

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    If the wife catches you with the pan you can tell her Emerald said this is the best way to season the pan.

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    I'll be the first to admit that I don't have a strong mechanical side, so thank you very much for this post!

    Do you have a post about changing gear oil? or dose this cover that as well? Don't laugh at me guys, I've just never done work on cars or bikes.

    Thanks for any recommendations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowdman
    I'll be the first to admit that I don't have a strong mechanical side, so thank you very much for this post!

    Do you have a post about changing gear oil? or dose this cover that as well? Don't laugh at me guys, I've just never done work on cars or bikes.

    Thanks for any recommendations.

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    I think there might be something on the site. Do a search and I'm sure you'll comeup with something. I had another offer to do mine so I let him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bowdman
    I'll be the first to admit that I don't have a strong mechanical side, so thank you very much for this post!¬* ¬*¬*

    Do you have a post about changing gear oil? or dose this cover that as well? Don't laugh at me guys, I've just never done work on cars or bikes.

    Thanks for any recommendations.

    Mike
    Careful with the filler cap!!!!!!!!
    I busted the threads right off of mine LOL
    I didnt think I was tightening it that much but...

    Next time I will know, but just in case... I will order one from Suzuki for $11.00

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    followed your instructions, Lamonster! rode about 10 miles, so let it sit for awhile, check the stick in the upright position, good too go best i can tell. Also had no blow-by out the filter.....will keep you all updated!!! thanks again Lamonster! hope you have a great trip!

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    does this thing work for this bike ? or does anybody know http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/B...014244/c-10111
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    That shift to second is easy to miss if you don't shift it like you mean it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by big69
    does this thing work for this bike ? or does anybody know http://www.jcwhitney.com/autoparts/B...014244/c-10111
    Cant see why it wont, but why use that when you were already granted a license to use gravity?

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    damn, i see why there are all these problems with changing the oil. i changed mine myself for the first time tonight...ya gotta be careful. it took me running it and draining a little twice before i got it exactly right. you have to add it in small increments. it's also very sensitive to how long you let it cool after running. wait a bit too long and it's too low, a bit too quick and it's over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by phaed
    damn, i see why there are all these problems with changing the oil.¬* i changed mine myself for the first time tonight...ya gotta be careful.¬* it took me running it and draining a little twice before i got it exactly right.¬* you have to add it in small increments.¬* it's also very sensitive to how long you let it cool after running.¬* wait a bit too long and it's too low, a bit too quick and it's over.
    I've never had anything with a motor that was so hard to change oil in and fill it back up to the right amount. ::)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster
    I've never had anything with a motor that was so hard to change oil in and fill it back up to the right amount. ::)
    A big +1 on that

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    Ok i changed my oil while it was draning i started wipeing the bike down so i left the bike drain for and hour then a sound like some one who had the runs came from under the bike it dumped about a cup more of oil just from sitting whats up with that?
    Quote by Jutah
    That shift to second is easy to miss if you don't shift it like you mean it.

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    did you move the bike while wiping stood it up straighter or something?

    Sledzep

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    very little
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    That shift to second is easy to miss if you don't shift it like you mean it.

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    This "dry-sump" baffles me a bit too. Glad to hear it's not just my almost complete lack of motor-cycle mechanics know-how. When my oil was overfilled and bleeding in my carport, I took the two plugs out to try to fix the situation myself. I got about an ounce and a half......thats it so then I was scared it was out of oil and pulled the dipstick, and it was to the top. I want to change my own oil this week, but was a little scared until I did the search engine and found Lamonsters step by step. I am guessing, now, that the reason I got so little oil out before was because I hadn't run the bike in awhile.......right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WA109
    This "dry-sump" baffles me a bit too. Glad to hear it's not just my almost complete lack of motor-cycle mechanics know-how. When my oil was overfilled and bleeding in my carport, I took the two plugs out to try to fix the situation myself. I got about an ounce and a half......thats it so then I was scared it was out of oil and pulled the dipstick, and it was to the top. I want to change my own oil this week, but was a little scared until I did the search engine and found Lamonsters step by step. I am guessing, now, that the reason I got so little oil out before was because I hadn't run the bike in awhile.......right?
    make sure you lose up a bit your oil filter before you run it and only run it for about 5 min not 15 it will be hot so thats why you lose up the filter read the oil thread put 3 qt in first ride 15 min check oil then replace as needed
    Quote by Jutah
    That shift to second is easy to miss if you don't shift it like you mean it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lamonster
    I used my wife's deep frying pan, that held just the right amount. I figure I can sneak it in the dishwasher before she figures out it's gone.¬*
    That's insane. You must live life way out on the edge.

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