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    I didnít notice this right away on my new 9 but the handlebars are not straight when looking compared to the headlight bucket. To straighten them out, is this as easy as loosening the risers and re-adjusting?


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    There are two big giant allen head bolts on the underside of the upper triple clamp that hold the risers on. My feeling is you will need to loosen the four that hold the handlebars on, and those two big ones on the bottom. Realign everything and retighten all the bolts. Never seen one that bad before. WOW! Someone must have been crosseyed when they assembled that one.
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    Ya Iím surprised I didnít notice from the day I picked it up.... I donít mind wrenching but this also wasnít really anything I thought I would see on a brand new bike either

    Oh well, either way today I got the tools out, made the adjustments and now Iím happy with it


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    [QUOTE=Chrispy;3980066]Ya Iím surprised I didnít notice from the day I picked it up.... I donít mind wrenching but this also wasnít really anything I thought I would see on a brand new bike either

    Oh well, either way today I got the tools out, made the adjustments and now Iím happy with it

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    You should get a job at your local Suzuki dealership assembling bikes......looks like you do a better job of it than the guy they have now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bering_C_Sparky View Post

    You should get a job at your local Suzuki dealership assembling bikes......looks like you do a better job of it than the guy they have now.

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    A part of me is wondering if the upper bolts werenít all the way tight and the vibrations gradually caused the twisting, cause I still canít figure out how I didnít notice it on day one lol

    But if thatís the case, itís makes me worry even more about the mechanic who assembled the bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrispy View Post
    A part of me is wondering if the upper bolts weren’t all the way tight and the vibrations gradually caused the twisting, cause I still can’t figure out how I didn’t notice it on day one lol

    But if that’s the case, it’s makes me worry even more about the mechanic who assembled the bike
    Upper Bolts?

    Should have just needed to loosen the 2 bolts under the upper part of the tree (that go into the bottom of each riser) then rack the bars to the left and tighten the 2 bolts again.......did you do something different than that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bering_C_Sparky View Post
    Upper Bolts?

    Should have just needed to loosen the 2 bolts under the upper part of the tree (that go into the bottom of each riser) then rack the bars to the left and tighten the 2 bolts again.......did you do something different than that?

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    I may have loosened more bolts then necessary, still on the learning curve of working on bikes instead of cars lol

    I loosened the 2 bolts holding the risers to the triple tree and the 4 bolts holding the handlebar to the risers just enough to be able to move everything with ease, got the handlebar lined up and started tightening the 4 bolts first, then the 2 underneath holding the risers while checking to make sure the bars stayed straight

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    I notice mine was like this after uncovering( winter) and wonder what it would take to straighten. Seems simple enough, thanks guys!

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    Unfortunately it will go back to being crooked.

    There's something inherently wrong about the design of the risers on the 109.

    The handlebar gets crooked by forcing them straight when going from parked (all the way to the left) to straight.

    You can correct it by going full left and giving them a nudge, but as soon as you bring it straight again, it will twist.

    Gotta find a way to prevent all those rubbers from flexing.

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    Mine's a 2006 and never been crooked. YMMV! Whether it was with the stock risers or the current one inch shorter risers, never noticed anything whacky about it. Another thing, in 13 years owning this bike, I've rarely parked it with the bars turned full left. Usually leave it parked with the bars facing straight ahead. Can't recall ever using the fork lock. At home, it's parked in a chock straight ahead and vertical. So I can twist the bars to my hearts content without having to straddle the front wheel and "reef" the bars.
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    Well Iím hoping it was just a simple fluke and they donít twist on me again, if they do then at least itís an easy fix

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrispy View Post
    Well Iím hoping it was just a simple fluke and they donít twist on me again, if they do then at least itís an easy fix
    Chrispy, I honestly think theyíll be just fine, now that youíve straightened your Risers and tightened them down. I think itís very likely the mechanic just didnít install them straight and torque them down properly. However, I would be very concerned with the proper assembly and tightening of everything else on the bike, after finding the Risers in that condition.

    I had a 2006 (sold it several years ago), and currently have a 2007 and 2008 model, and Iíve never had an issue with the Risers being loose or crooked...and Iíve had the entire front end of each one torn apart and reassembled, due to front end aftermarket upgrades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUDAH-9 View Post
    However, I would be very concerned with the proper assembly and tightening of everything else on the bike, after finding the Risers in that condition.
    This was my first thoughts, Iíve put about 800kms on it now and thereís been no sign of any other issues, but Iím certainly watching for anything unusual

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrispy View Post
    This was my first thoughts, Iíve put about 800kms on it now and thereís been no sign of any other issues, but Iím certainly watching for anything unusual
    Good deal Chrispy. For my own peace of mind, I would at least go through the bike, and check all the large/major bolts for tightness, if it were my bike.

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    Hey guys,

    Every year I go by the dealerships to look at the new M109's...doing this since 2010 and finally bought my 2013....and they all have crooked handlebars.

    Of the guys I ride with that have the M109....there all slightly off, friend just bought a 2018 and it to is off....some worse than others but off.

    I loosened and straightened them out...but as posted above they go crooked again.

    Check your bikes again fella's and you will see....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marco11964 View Post
    Hey guys,

    Every year I go by the dealerships to look at the new M109's...doing this since 2010 and finally bought my 2013....and they all have crooked handlebars.

    Of the guys I ride with that have the M109....there all slightly off, friend just bought a 2018 and it to is off....some worse than others but off.

    I loosened and straightened them out...but as posted above they go crooked again.

    Check your bikes again fella's and you will see....

    There's too much rubber parts in play.

    I even tried to torque the risers down a little crooked in the other direction, figured it would be ok once it goes "crooked" but it didn't work very long.

    There's the rubber pad under the risers, but the single bolt that goes through the upper triple tree is also going through a rubber bushing.

    All that combined might make for less vibrations, but allows the handlebars to become crooked.

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    I didn't really notice it when I had stock risers but once I went to the 2" pull back they go crooked even after straightening like others said

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    My 2006 Nine has never had a problem with crooked handlebars. My 2013 had crooked handlebars when I bought it (used). I loosened the caps on the top and the big Allen cap screws under the triple tree and then carefully adjusted the bars and tightened them and the risers, applying as much force as I dared, to the Allen head cap screws. The bars gradually moved and are now crooked again.

    I wonder if the reason for my problem is that there is no bracing on the risers on the newer Nines that don't have the tachometer mounted on the risers? The tach is attached to a 1/4 thick aluminum bar, about 1.5 inches below the center of the handlebars. Perhaps this aluminum bar provides additional rigidity to the bars and risers to keep them from twisting.

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    Is that why you kept turning left on Saturday?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Metalman View Post
    My 2006 Nine has never had a problem with crooked handlebars. My 2013 had crooked handlebars when I bought it (used). I loosened the caps on the top and the big Allen cap screws under the triple tree and then carefully adjusted the bars and tightened them and the risers, applying as much force as I dared, to the Allen head cap screws. The bars gradually moved and are now crooked again.

    I wonder if the reason for my problem is that there is no bracing on the risers on the newer Nines that don't have the tachometer mounted on the risers? The tach is attached to a 1/4 thick aluminum bar, about 1.5 inches below the center of the handlebars. Perhaps this aluminum bar provides additional rigidity to the bars and risers to keep them from twisting.
    MM, I think your assertion makes a lot of sense. I never thought about the Tach Mounting Bar adding rigidity and stability to the positioning of the Risers, but I certainly think youíre on point with your assessment. My 9s are 07í and 08í models with the Tach Mounting Bar installed, and the Risers are very straight.

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    I thought of that also,

    It would be interesting to see if we could mount a tach back to a newer bike and see if this helps keep the risers straight.

    I now have +2 risers on my 2018, and they have the holes for the tach mount.

    Unfortunately, having a BOSS, I would need to get something painted to match.

    I'll look into this!

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    Judah, that's a darn good observation. Hadn't thought of that, but you're correct. That extra piece of thick material in there, bolted to the risers, may in fact help the older Nines keep their risers straight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbxer55 View Post
    Judah, that's a darn good observation. Hadn't thought of that, but you're correct. That extra piece of thick material in there, bolted to the risers, may in fact help the older Nines keep their risers straight.
    I totally agree Bro. MetalMan hit the nailed on the head with his evaluation. I wonder if Suzuki even realized the Tach Mount Bar was helping stabilize the Risers on the later year models?

    Iím planning on buying my very last 9 sometime within the next 6 to 9 months or so, and it will be an 08í to 10í model w/Tachometer mounted above the Risers. I like that look, and now that I believe the Tach Mount Bar helps to keep the Risers straight, it will have to be one of those year models. My custom Bracket that holds my monitor in front of the Risers is designed to mount to the Tach Mount Bar as well, so it works out perfectly for me.

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    2009 was the last year with tach outside the headlight cowl.

    The more I think about this the more it makes sense.

    Now how to correct this....

    The newer 9's don't have that mounting hole on the risers.

    I guess one could wedge a piece of trimmed metal at the bottom between the 2 risers. But that would look odd no matter how well it's done.

    I've got the Yana Shiki risers with big round holes, if I got just the right diameter rod I could insert it into the lowest hole and link the 2 risers.
    But i'm no machinist...

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    Me and Aramis been braking necks for a bit now.
    how to come up with a solution,my bike is brand new (1and until he didnt told me my life was happy.
    We have a demo in mind see pics
    And I think I can make something nice to work and fit
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    I need a pair of old risers to take some sizes and each

    The way we have found so far is to drill a small hole in the newer models and attached the plate,the bolt from outside can be countersink so it still looks slick
    And the plate will look like in the image attached

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    ^^^^^

    I think a have pair of stock risers off my 07 kicking around here somewhere,,Iíll have a look and drop me off next nice day,or meet you on your way home one night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramis View Post

    2009 was the last year with tach outside the headlight cowl.

    The more I think about this the more it makes sense.

    Now how to correct this....

    The newer 9's don't have that mounting hole on the risers.

    I guess one could wedge a piece of trimmed metal at the bottom between the 2 risers. But that would look odd no matter how well it's done.

    I've got the Yana Shiki risers with big round holes, if I got just the right diameter rod I could insert it into the lowest hole and link the 2 risers.
    But i'm no machinist...
    FYI...Iím not trying to burst your bubble, but your comment about 2009 being the last year the Tach was outside of the headlight nacelle is totally incorrect. In 2010, Suzuki produced a black/blue standard version of the M109R, with the Tach clearly located outside of the headlight nacelle. In 2010, they also produced an M109R LE version, which was black w/micro flakes in the paint and an orange LE stripe, and the Tach was clearly located inside the headlight nacelle. Do some research, and youíll see lots of pics and write ups about the 2010 M109R standard version plastered all over the internet. In addition, there were even a few members here who purchased the 2010 M109R standard version with Tach located outside the headlight nacelle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stavros View Post
    ^^^^^

    I think a have pair of stock risers off my 07 kicking around here somewhere,,Iíll have a look and drop me off next nice day,or meet you on your way home one night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by punkbober View Post
    Me and Aramis been braking necks for a bit now.
    how to come up with a solution,my bike is brand new (1and until he didnt told me my life was happy.
    We have a demo in mind see pics
    And I think I can make something nice to work and fit
    BUUUUUUT
    I need a pair of old risers to take some sizes and each

    The way we have found so far is to drill a small hole in the newer models and attached the plate,the bolt from outside can be countersink so it still looks slick
    And the plate will look like in the image attached

    Sent from my SM-N960W using Tapatalk
    This is the idea a had brewing in my head but I donít have any access to fancy tools like CAD or laser cutters to make parts like this and have them look professional.... suppose I could make something with a grinder but itíd be hard to have it look nice when finished

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