Well the forum is a bit slow today so just thought I would post this up and share something I found interesting about our ECU Maps that I discovered the other day.
Everything I say about the TRE in this post is simply facts.....I am not advising anyone to run out and buy a TRE and not trying to talk you out of buying one either, I am just talking ......but you can get your ECU flashed to take care of all of this without any aftermarket add on devices.
In a previous thread we have discussed that a TRE will trick your bike into running 4th gear maps all the time. (Regardless of what gear you are actually in)
The TRE is primarily used to correct the retarded timing that is programmed into 1st, 2nd & 3rd gear from the factory........Install a TRE and you will run 4th gear maps all the time, so the ECU is fooled into never executing the retarded timing maps in the lower gears.
Now another added benefit you get from a TRE is that it will get you around the top end limiter on the Secondary Throttle Plate Maps.......IF you are one of the fortunate ones that are running a ECU model that will allow this.
If you have a 2006, 2007 or some 2008 models made for North America.......sorry you are out of luck here......the way the STP bin file is constructed your 4th and 5th gear maps are the same so the limiter will be active when your are in 4th gear.....so you cannot get around this limiter using a TRE, although you do still get the benefit of its intended use as a Timing Retard Eliminator.
If you have (some)2008 model ECU and all 2009 - 2019 M109R ECU models made for North American.....well you are lucky, the TRE will get you around this top end limiter because in your ECU STP maps 4th gear is not limited, so the TRE tricking your bike into thinking its in 4th gear all the time gets you around the timing retard and the STP limiter.
We have discussed all this in the past, but just wanted to refresh it here for any new comers who may not have heard of this before.
Now for the new addition to this story we will include our friends from across the pond(s).
I never had anyone from overseas send me their ECU to flash before, but the other day I flashed the very first one I ever had to send across the pond. One of our members from the Netherlands had sent his ECU to me to be flash.
Once I got in and started looking at the European/Australian maps I found that they have the STP top end limited in 4th gear for every year from 2006 - 2019.
So you fella's on the other side of the ponds who are running a TRE are still limited on the top end by the STP maps and cannot get around it via the use of a TRE.
Tuning the ECU directly is the only way you will be able to get around this limiter. (or yank out the secondarys)
Not that this makes a big hill of beans unless you are like me and like to run the bike all out WFO.......but I know of at least one on here who is on the other side and likes to lay down some rubber and twist the throttle. (I am sure there are others also)
Again I am not pushing the TRE here, I believe you are leaps and bound and money ahead to just tune the ECU directly.......I posted this info strictly as FYI
Anyway, just thought I would throw that tidbit of information out there, as I had never seen anyone mention this before......a little light reading for ya, on a slow day.
Below you can see the 4th gear STP maps for a North American 2011 - 2019 M109R and the same map for a European/Australian 2011 - 2019 M109R