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    Hi fellow riders

    Still a new C rider, still learning about the bike. So far I love it. The hard second gear shift is a bit weird, but i'm used to it now.

    I have a question about oil filters. I'll be doing my first oil change probably in october, before I stop riding for the season. Before I get too deep into this, I'll mention that I'm in Toronto, Canada. So I stopped into Canadian Tire on the weekend just to browse around and decided to check out oil filters for the C. I've been told to avoid fram as they are not recommended by pretty much everyone. Aside from ordering a K&N filter, the only off the shelf option appears to be the Mobil 1 M1MC-133.

    What is everyone using? There seem to be more options in the USA, but I can't get them here.

    Also, I have heard that there is an adapter out their that we can use so we can change our filters to the same size used by honda, yamaha and kawasaki. Has anyone used one? is it worth the effort to put one in?

    All feedback is appreciated. Keep the rubber down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crzynoof View Post
    Hi fellow riders

    Still a new C rider, still learning about the bike. So far I love it. The hard second gear shift is a bit weird, but i'm used to it now.

    I have a question about oil filters. I'll be doing my first oil change probably in october, before I stop riding for the season. Before I get too deep into this, I'll mention that I'm in Toronto, Canada. So I stopped into Canadian Tire on the weekend just to browse around and decided to check out oil filters for the C. I've been told to avoid fram as they are not recommended by pretty much everyone. Aside from ordering a K&N filter, the only off the shelf option appears to be the Mobil 1 M1MC-133.

    What is everyone using? There seem to be more options in the USA, but I can't get them here.

    Also, I have heard that there is an adapter out their that we can use so we can change our filters to the same size used by honda, yamaha and kawasaki. Has anyone used one? is it worth the effort to put one in?

    All feedback is appreciated. Keep the rubber down.
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    is this what you use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by crzynoof View Post
    is this what you use?
    Yes I do, but just a regular HiFlo 138 which doesn't

    have the nut welded on it and not called racing...
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    This is a GREAT Oil Filter. Iíve been using this brand/model for a while now, and I find it to be is as good as it gets. Itís also very reasonably and modestly priced.

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    K&N with free shipping for under $9 but dont know if that also means to Canada or not!

    https://www.amazon.com/KN-138-Powers...ROL&ref=plSrch

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinrascal View Post
    K&N with free shipping for under $9 but dont know if that also means to Canada or not!

    https://www.amazon.com/KN-138-Powers...ROL&ref=plSrch
    That's american. It's 21 bucks on amazon.ca

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    Quote Originally Posted by crzynoof View Post
    That's american. It's 21 bucks on amazon.ca
    How much does the other link cost Canadian? It shows $9.53 US compared to the $8.51 for the K&N!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thevili View Post
    Yes I do, but just a regular HiFlo 138 which doesn't

    have the nut welded on it and not called racing...
    You made a very good point. The M109R doesnít require the racing version of the HiFlo 138, and itís not recommended for use on the M199R by most, if not all, bike mechanics/service shops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinrascal View Post
    K&N with free shipping for under $9 but dont know if that also means to Canada or not!

    https://www.amazon.com/KN-138-Powers...ROL&ref=plSrch
    Wow, thatís a very, very good price. Iíve never seen the K&N Oil Filter for the 9 priced that low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUDAH-9 View Post
    Wow, that’s a very, very good price. I’ve never seen the K&N Oil Filter for the 9 priced that low.
    I know its crazy..


    If you search for a "M109R oil filter" the average price that pops up is around $15 but by searching k&n by their Model number you find it closer to the $10 mark and if you like shiny the chrome version can be had for about $1 more. But you are right that this is a very good price being that its less then $9 delivered!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinrascal View Post
    I know its crazy..


    If you search for M109R oil filter the average price that pops up averages $15 but by searching k&n by their Model number you find it closer to the $10 mark and if you like shiny the chrome version can be had for about $1 more. But you are right that this is a very good price being that its less then $9.
    Thanks for sharing that info Latinrascal. The primary reason I switched from using the K&N Oil Filter is I felt it was overpriced. $8.51 each is unbelievable, and Iím going to purchase several of those K&N 138 Oil Filters, so Iíll have one available for a while, when I need to do an oil change. The HiFlo 138 has been a very good oil filter, but Iíd rather use the K&N brand, simply because Iíve always had great success with K&N oil and air filter products.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUDAH-9 View Post
    Thanks for sharing that info Latinrascal. The primary reason I switched from using the K&N Oil Filter is I felt it was overpriced. $8.51 each is unbelievable, and Iím going to purchase several of those K&N 138 Oil Filters, so Iíll have one available for a while, when I need to do an oil change. The HiFlo 138 has been a very good oil filter, but Iíd rather use the K&N brand, simply because Iíve always had great success with K&N oil and air filter products.
    You Bet...Always Happy to be Helpful when I can.

    And it would be a good idea to pick up a few for the next couple seasons at least for sure, especially that price.

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    So speaking off of second hand knowledge here but my understanding is since k&n moved production overseas their filters have not been very good. My understanding is they were banned from motorcycle racing due to leaking oil.

    I was told that hi flo is what k&n used to be.

    Take it for what it is. I'm too lazy to verify any of this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinrascal View Post
    How much does the other link cost Canadian? It shows $9.53 US compared to the $8.51 for the K&N!
    upon further research, 8.51 price is for amazon prime members only. For everyone else, it's around 15 american and up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinrascal View Post
    You Bet...Always Happy to be Helpful when I can.

    And it would be a good idea to pick up a few for the next couple seasons at least for sure, especially that price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlsrt44 View Post
    So speaking off of second hand knowledge here but my understanding is since k&n moved production overseas their filters have not been very good. My understanding is they were banned from motorcycle racing due to leaking oil.

    I was told that hi flo is what k&n used to be.

    Take it for what it is. I'm too lazy to verify any of this.
    Oh, I hope thatís not true.

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    thanks for the feedback everyone

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    I second that, HiFlo all the way, I run them on my 9, my Valkyrie, and my Magna. Good filters, more pleats, back flo valve.

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    also remember there a re 2 oil drain plugs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CruiserC109R View Post
    also remember there a re 2 oil drain plugs!
    No offense but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinrascal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CruiserC109R View Post
    also remember there a re 2 oil drain plugs!
    No offense but what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?
    Useful information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlsrt44 View Post
    Useful information?
    Useful for doing an oil change Absolutely but they have nothing to do with the Oil Filter itself which is the topic of the thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Latinrascal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by atlsrt44 View Post
    Useful information?
    Useful for doing an oil change Absolutely but they have nothing to do with the Oil Filter itself which is the topic of the thread!
    I was trying to be helpful lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by atlsrt44 View Post
    I was trying to be helpful lol

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    I decided to go with oem suzuki 10w40 synthetic oil and suzuki filter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crzynoof View Post
    I decided to go with oem suzuki 10w40 synthetic oil and suzuki filter.
    That's what I've gone with this year and will be continuing to do. I don't trust car oil to work with also oiling clutch assembly.

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