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\nIf I pull the swingarm, I should be able to get at all the bolts I need to remove to get the stub shaft thing out of the way so I can start drilling out what\'s left of the bolt... right?
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    \r\n There\'s only some possibility that there is any loctitie on that bolt. I would look at the manual and see if it calls for it there. If not, it might be a lot easier to get out than you think. If the head is off, there\'s no pressure on the threads and the remaining bit may come out easily, maybe even with a magnet to turn it. If you do end up drilling it, use a left hand drill bit. It might back it right out of there with just the pressure of the drilling.\r\n
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    \nPulled the rear wheel, pumpkin, driveshaft, then pulled the swingarm long bolt. I left the shock mount bolts in and let the swingarm droop.
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    \nI didn\'t have an 8mm hex wrench socket, so I made one.. pulled the secondary shaft off and got to drilling.
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    \nStepped up 3x from 1/8" to 1/4" drilling all the way through and then plugged a snap-on ez out into the hole. The remainder of the bolt spun pretty much right out. Blue Loctite is on it.
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    \n..now I need to find a new bolt and pray that just slamming it back together is all I need to do. Bike only has barely 8000 miles on it, so it should be oK? The speed sensor was quite hairy with metal shavings... idk.. Hopefully it\'s fine. I don\'t have any money to replace the whole secondary drive. We\'ll see. I\'m trading it in this fall anyway. Pretty sure I might be harder on a bike (any bike) than pretty much anybody would be.. I\'m 300 pounds and ride like a 150-pound psychopath. I think a regular old 150-pound psychopath wouldn\'t be as hard on one of these, just because less weight means less stress on the bike.\r\n
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    \r\n Quote Originally Posted by evil0990\r\n View Post\r\n
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    OK, so after several hours of my life wasted, it has been determined that there are ZERO 09103-12084-A05 bolts available in the United States.
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    Did you just try to go through Suzuki? There were a few places I found online that have the bolt available, one being Bike Bandit.com where I regularly order OEM parts from.
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    \nHandling is... well, I mean.. it will go around a bend. Mostly. The brakes are great. It\'s stable even when you accidentally lose traction coming out of a corner. It could have better aero.
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    \nThe acceleration is meh. Needs more power. The shaft drive soaks up so much power. Why does it struggle to go over 90MPH if it makes over 100HP at the crank? This thing should have no problem clearing 130. My \'78 GL1000 would do 125 down a hill. This thing won\'t break 115 and it makes a third more power.
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    I CALLED PartsZilla and BikeBandit. On the PHONE. I talked to PEOPLE. Sure they say "ships in 3-64 days" or whatever. That\'s bs. You CALL. You ASK.
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    Um, alrighty then and good luck. That kind of attitude makes me feel like trying to help you out by looking up the part was a waste of my own time...\r\n
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    Well, that bolt that you had wasn\'t very well made or it wouldn\'t have broken. And, there is virtually no load on that bolt other than the torque being applied to it to install it. The gear is simply being held on with it. The force is constantly pushing the gear towards the motor, not pulling on it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by TRod View Post
      This is some out of the box thinking, I think, but here's my suggestion.

      That bolt is really nothing special. Oh, it has a fancy flanged head on it but that can be replicated with just a washer. All one really needs it a bolt that is the same size/length with the same thread in a decent quality (which the stock bolt appeared to be lacking in). A grade 8 (or the metric equal) would certainly do the job.

      I can see why that bolt would not be stocked anywhere. I'm sure that history of bikes prior to your shows that bolt being a very low demand item and I suspect that few have broken for many thousands of bikes sold. There's really not much reason for it to break so there are virtually none sold so the computer says don't put any in stock. It really is as simple as supply and demand.

      Anyway, if you want to fix it see if you can find a metric bolt that is the same size/length/pitch and put a washer under the head of it, put it back together and go ride. Maybe there's not a bolt out there that's the same but it wouldn't take long to figure that out. Probably a fraction of the time you've spent ranting about it here.
      Quote Originally Posted by TRod View Post
      Well, that bolt that you had wasn't very well made or it wouldn't have broken. And, there is virtually no load on that bolt other than the torque being applied to it to install it. The gear is simply being held on with it. The force is constantly pushing the gear towards the motor, not pulling on it.

      I would not have any issue whatsoever putting a grade 8 metric equal in it's place if I wanted to ride the bike. If you do end up getting an actual Suzuki bolt sometime later then you can change it out.

      I guess it depends on whether you want to actually ride or sit around and bitch about not being able to ride.

      I know where you're coming from.... but I ordered the replacement from suzuki anyway.

      ..and there is load put on it. it's a helical cut bevel gear.

      it doesn't just transfer motion, the teeth are helical cut. it pushes and pulls also... and might break under hard deceleration.
      '09 M90 - Current Status: waking the dead.

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