Seriously be careful, My friend dumped my 9 in a parking lot going from 2nd to 1st. It doesn't happen too bad with me on it, but then again I weigh like 110lbs more than him. The thing you need to look at really is matching rpm's when downshifting. If not you experience the wrath or the 9's torque when "engine braking".
Here's an oldie but goodie.
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Yup, first time I ever rode a 9, test drove a stock Burple. I was coming off a 94 Suzuki RF900RR, that thing loves to rev, you could downshift all you want to engine brake and it would just spin up and take it. I got to my first stop on the 9 and locked up the back wheel downshifting. I musta skid that thing 4-5 times in a 20 minute test drive just by downshifting.
I quickly learned that it is a whole nutha animal and can't be driven like a sport bike. On a sport bike you wanna keep the revs high and stay in a lower gear. This bike lives on torque, no reason to be in 1st other than being stopped and taking off. 1st in a turn is not necessary, 2 will work fine no matter how slow the corner.
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Like others have said, you need to get your revs up when down shifting. I don't recommend down shifting to first however, it's too low. By giving your throttle a blip it gets the RPMS up to match where they'll be when you let out the clutch. It makes it much easier on the transmission also.
For those that don't down shift, I think that you may be a little short sighted, and here's why. If you don't have your bike in an acceptable gear at all times, if you need to give throttle to get out of trouble, you have to try to find a gear first which may take too long. You always want two choices, speed up or slow down. If your clutch is in and your bike is in a gear that's too high or too low, your screwed. I understand your thoughts on the transmission, but I PERSONALLY think it's a mistake. I'm not saying your wrong, I'm just saying that I wouldn't do it that way!
When's the last time you checked the air pressure in your tires? Low air pressure can also make you feel like it's going to fishtail because the tire is actually rolling from side to side on the rim.
Always blip the throttle when downshifting. Ideally, your RPMs would match exactly, but it's way better and easier to be a little high than too low (your RPMs). If your RPMs of the gear you're switching to are lower than your wheel speed, then the engine will have to match up. This has the effect of braking on your rear wheel, just with the engine instead of the brake caliper.
It can be a dangerous situation if you're not careful, especially in first. I almost never downshift into first while I'm moving. It's the hardest gear to match correctly.
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Coming off my GSXR 07/1k i had a slipper clutch and before going into corners i can down shift at any speeds , Rear wheel would never lock up. Now that i am spoiled . This is scary , I thought being suzuki and all the 9 would automatically come with a slipper . This kind of sucks , taking me back to the old shrad bikes matching rpm to down shift at the right time.
How much did you pay to get that slipper clutch. I will be doing it soon.
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I had a scary incident with me and Tina on the bike last year near Maggie. I accelerated hard to get in front of my son and quickly approached car that was breaking. No big deal except that I pulled in the clutch then let it back out and the rear end started doing a bunny hop to the side. It will tighten your panties!!
All I could think about after that was how bad this bike needed a slipper. Suzuki put one in their V-Strom 1000 which really didn't need one as far as I can tell. Maybe the next generation 109 will get one. It needs it as bad as any bike I have ever ridden.
Suzuki...are you reading this??
First is for when my foot is about to hit the ground to stop or to the point where i have to put my foot down...
second all the way on turns and when coming up to a stop.
fishtailing is not good.. at some point you'll do that and the rear will lock up completely if your going too fast...
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Coming off a super sportsbike myself, engine braking was never an issue. It's how I did all my red light and stop sign stops. But my 06 Gsxr 1000 is a way different animal than this 9.