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    Default Sticky Shifter

    A while back I started having issues with the shifter sticking and not allowing me to downshift past 3rd gear. The solution is to nudge it up (not too much or it shifts back up) and then it will go down one gear, reapeat to get to first. This is dangerous and annoying on sharp corners followed by steep hills (like near here) where I've slowed for the corner but can't downshift to 2nd and can't let the clutch all the way out while in third or it'll stall.

    I've noticed this happens more frequently at colder tempuratures, it's currently 40°F here. The bike had been running for over 45 minutes in stop and go traffic to get here, so the oil should have been warm regardless of outside temp.

    Before I take it to the stealer, anyone got any suggestions or possible causes?
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    Maybe a bad spring on the detent arm for the shift star.

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    Spray silicone lubricant into the shifter shaft that might help. Maybe WD- 40 ?
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    Seems like a few members have been having this problem lately right out of the blue! My guess would be the shift star spring binding or the shifter needs some grease.

    Sly that's one Hell of a coincidence that both your bikes are doing it! I would recommend you changing to the factory pro regardless if that's what the problem is or not, you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner. And I'd also recommend the valvoline 20w50 for vtwins. My bike never liked synthetics with amsoil being the worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by keitho View Post
    Spray silicone lubricant into the shifter shaft that might help. Maybe WD- 40 ?
    Had the same problem with a different bike I had an on my 9. the linkage and where the shifter ride get dirty and need to be cleaned. The linkage has rubber boots on the joints but it still gets dirty in there. I tryed electrical cleaner because it dries fast and lubed it with graphite dry lubricant this time to see if it stays a little cleaner. I am in souther New Mexico and it is dusty here, so the problem is worse. I had to do this last weekend.

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    Mine was sticking when down shifting. I already had replaced the shift star and shift bushing. Prior to it sticking. I disassembled (after removing the oil,hint) and re-assembled. Shifts like butter now. Didn't really see anything out of whack, the shift arm where it pushes onto shift star assembly? Thought it was shift bushing at first, removed and greased. Not so much. Maybe something is off on linkage arm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crgbrks View Post
    Mine was sticking when down shifting. I already had replaced the shift star and shift bushing. Prior to it sticking. I disassembled (after removing the oil,hint) and re-assembled. Shifts like butter now. Didn't really see anything out of whack, the shift arm where it pushes onto shift star assembly? Thought it was shift bushing at first, removed and greased. Not so much. Maybe something is off on linkage arm.
    Simply taking it apart and puting it back together solved the problem for you?
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    Lube the shaft the lever rides on and where the boot is. It will shift like butter. When i change my oil i drop some of the synthetic oil on them.

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    Good combo for the nine. 265/40/18 or P265/45R 18 Michelin Pilot Sport and Metz 130/70/18 front. Try it, youll like it.
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    Mine had the same problem. I have a 2010 c109rt with 36000km on the clock already so I've come across this one as well. First up remove the foot plate and gear change linkages from the tranny. remove the bolt that the changer rotates on. Lube this bolt with a film of water proof grease or better yet silicone spray. Now peel back the rubber boots on the linkages and spray with wd40 (posum piss we calit over here). Reassemble back on bike and bobs your uncle. I repeat this probably ever 6 months and give it a quick squirt of possum pee after every wash. Hope this helps. mine has never stuck since.
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    Yesterday, the shifting got worse so that either up or down the shifter would stick. Got busy with some late work and feeding the kids, forgot to go look at it! This morning, I was in a hurry, so I sprayed WD40 on the pivot point of the shift and then over the top of the black cover (below the chrome ones) where you can see the linkage move. Amazingly enough, problem gone. If it's fine for the ride home today, I won't take it apart tomorrow and do a thorough job (too lazy), but as soon as I start having issues again, the covers are coming off for a thorough cleaning and relubing.

    Thanks for all the input, I was afraid it might be a larger problem (such as damage spring or some such) that was going to cost me to repair. A squirt of WD40 is basically free.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemiarty View Post
    Yesterday, the shifting got worse so that either up or down the shifter would stick. Got busy with some late work and feeding the kids, forgot to go look at it! This morning, I was in a hurry, so I sprayed WD40 on the pivot point of the shift and then over the top of the black cover (below the chrome ones) where you can see the linkage move. Amazingly enough, problem gone. If it's fine for the ride home today, I won't take it apart tomorrow and do a thorough job (too lazy), but as soon as I start having issues again, the covers are coming off for a thorough cleaning and relubing.

    Thanks for all the input, I was afraid it might be a larger problem (such as damage spring or some such) that was going to cost me to repair. A squirt of WD40 is basically free.
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    Try this: http://www.gmanindustries.com/shop/p...&idcategory=48
    Replaces that steel greased shifter bushing that comes with the bike and puts an oil lite bronze bushing that is milled to closer specs as it;s oil impregnated and never uses grease.
    Shifting will be smooth and crisp for years to come.
    Your existing greased bushing gathers dirt due to it;s location and should be greased often. If my GBushing ever sticks just use a drop or two of 30w engine oil and ride.
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    I'w noticed the same problem with my bike yesterday, realy sticky when downshifting from third gear. Will remove the engine cover and have a look this weekend....


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    Lube goes a long way. Little graphite on the kick stand help while your there.
    Good combo for the nine. 265/40/18 or P265/45R 18 Michelin Pilot Sport and Metz 130/70/18 front. Try it, youll like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemiarty View Post
    Yesterday, the shifting got worse so that either up or down the shifter would stick. Got busy with some late work and feeding the kids, forgot to go look at it! This morning, I was in a hurry, so I sprayed WD40 on the pivot point of the shift and then over the top of the black cover (below the chrome ones) where you can see the linkage move. Amazingly enough, problem gone. If it's fine for the ride home today, I won't take it apart tomorrow and do a thorough job (too lazy), but as soon as I start having issues again, the covers are coming off for a thorough cleaning and relubing.

    Thanks for all the input, I was afraid it might be a larger problem (such as damage spring or some such) that was going to cost me to repair. A squirt of WD40 is basically free.
    WD-40 works well for freeing stuff up but it's not much of a long term lube. Once it dries out it can become quite sticky itself. A drop or 2 of oil from time to time on the shifter pivot should keep it working.

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    I just shoot it with PB Blaster, kickstand too. Works for quite a while, don't have to take anything apart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    You are inmy back yard, or me in yours.
    Try this: http://www.gmanindustries.com/shop/p...&idcategory=48
    Replaces that steel greased shifter bushing that comes with the bike and puts an oil lite bronze bushing that is milled to closer specs as it;s oil impregnated and never uses grease.
    Shifting will be smooth and crisp for years to come.
    Your existing greased bushing gathers dirt due to it;s location and should be greased often. If my GBushing ever sticks just use a drop or two of 30w engine oil and ride.
    I've had the GMan bushing on my bike almost since the day I've owned it and I've never had a sticky shifter. I never have to lubricate it either.
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    Had this happen, washed bike Wednesday, left Sunday morning for a ride and had issues changing up, then couldnt change down without pushing lever back to center position.
    I pulled up and used a few drops of engine oil from the dip stick on the gear lever pivot and rocked it up and down a few, it seemed to move better and was perfect all day 400km +

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hawkie View Post
    Had this happen, washed bike Wednesday, left Sunday morning for a ride and had issues changing up, then couldnt change down without pushing lever back to center position.
    I pulled up and used a few drops of engine oil from the dip stick on the gear lever pivot and rocked it up and down a few, it seemed to move better and was perfect all day 400km +
    I did the same and Yiiiiha, no more sticky shifter Easy peasy. TNX everybody


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    Quote Originally Posted by GMan View Post
    You are inmy back yard, or me in yours.
    Try this: http://www.gmanindustries.com/shop/p...&idcategory=48
    Replaces that steel greased shifter bushing that comes with the bike and puts an oil lite bronze bushing that is milled to closer specs as it;s oil impregnated and never uses grease.
    Shifting will be smooth and crisp for years to come.
    Your existing greased bushing gathers dirt due to it;s location and should be greased often. If my GBushing ever sticks just use a drop or two of 30w engine oil and ride.
    Flippin' legend!!!!
    I wasn't able to change gears down from third and wondered what the heck was happening. I love this forum, I truly do. I sprayed some CRC on it and VIOLA!!! IT WORKS!!!!
    (Temporary fix, that CRC is though).
    I'll be ordering this part very shortly. Thanks a bunch!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Luvs2Play View Post
    I just shoot it with PB Blaster, kickstand too. Works for quite a while, don't have to take anything apart.
    Just gave her a squirt of both and seems ok without a ride. Shifter didn't want to return after downshifts, smootlhed right up after a squirt. Was all uptight after getting home, just went on SS 2 months ago and can't afford that kind of repair. Also went to my first full synthetic oil change and thought it might be internal or a spring somewhere fell off. Major relief.

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    I got the oil impregnated brass bush from Gman, and it works a treat! I've had it on there for a few months now, and hasn't missed a beat. It's also helped with my gear changing too, as the stock one seems looser. This one is tight, so no more clunking into gear either. Awesomesauce!

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    It could be the the foot shifter return spring located under the cover where the shift star is located. We're just had a member here go through this trying to track down the same type of problem and once we were able to narrow down the problem he went in And found that the very hefty return spring was broken in 2 pieces, so it is worth the look if the problem persist!

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    Quote Originally Posted by keitho View Post
    Spray silicone lubricant into the shifter shaft that might help. Maybe WD- 40 ?
    WD is fine for cleaning, and works great to displace water, but is crap as a lubricant. I bet it is your detent spring. Easy to check.

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