Actual HP is uncorrected and will vary dramatically depending on the day (answer is for the many that don't understand)
My dyno is actually a heartbreaker for many people... (reads lower HP than most of the Dynojet model 250's)
I can post some uncorrected #'s if people want to see them.
What about if i first buy and install PCV( ´cos money) and leave everything else original. Especially the pipes because all parts all very expensive here in Finland. Will i still be able to get more torq and better throttle etc even original pipes are too small? My bike is original and i really don´t like it under 3500rpm. Twitching in low rpm, as you know.
Was here anybody´s result in dyno, only with commarder?
If you have twitchy throttle at low revs a TRE will help that lot.
Yeah, I've been thinking buying TRE but if I put PCV afterwards, isn't tre useless then? Or if it's not, what would be best order when buying and installing 1 at time?
Tre, pc, air intake, pipes? Of course dyno every time.
Last edited by tv79; 08-24-2015 at 07:13 PM.
You can install the TRE at any time. You need the PC-V after you do both pipes and intake. You can do either pipes or intake without adding fuel, but I think they run better even stock with a good tune.
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HP/Torque: 121.1Hp/ 115.6lbft
Mods: K&N air filters
Fuel management and settings: fuel/air ratio tune-up
Before and after differences: before tune-up 120.3HP/112.1lbft
Location of shop and prices to tune: Goes (Holland) $140 (Ruud Frederiks)
1/4 mile times: don't know
Additional comments, suggestions, and observations of your experience at the dyno: this was done in July, now she has Cobra swepped exhaust, Duck covers air filter covers (cutout skull) I closed the back side of the filter cases so only cool air gets in and I can already feel the difference, next wednesday I go back for a power commander install and re-map, lets see what she brings!!
Last edited by Mando; 11-13-2015 at 03:00 AM.
went back to the dyno and installed a power commander V and did the remap, this is the result:
HP/Torque: 119.0 Hp/ 127.9 lbft
Mods: K&N air filters, Duck covers, Cobra exhaust
Fuel management and settings: Power commander V, remap
Before and after differences: only K&N air filters (tune up with Yoshibox) 121.1 HP/115.6 lbft, added Cobra exhaust and Duck airfilter covers 115.2 HP/121.0 lbft
Location of shop and prices to tune: Goes (Holland) $510 power commander included
1/4 mile times: don't know
Additional comments, suggestions, and observations of your experience at the dyno: exhaust and covers gave a power loss of 6 Hp but gained 5.4 lbft of torque!! question is if I should de-cat the standard exhaust and use that or stick with this set-up?
Last edited by Mando; 11-13-2015 at 02:59 AM.
First at all. Friend of mine has a dyno for cars and we just tested for fun what we get. Results are computer´s calculated powers from motor ( for the cars), not from back tyre.
Like your results from mcdynos!?! Those are real power from tire?
But like i said, just for fun and see how the line goes.
Also we drove the dyno on 3rd gear, drivers mistake.
HP/Torque: 130,2HP / 106,7 lbft(144,6NM) (From backtyre 117,5hp/6722rpm, checked from computer)
Mods: Power Commander V, Autotune, TRE, everything else stock
So, were is my torque? I mean if factory promises 125hp/160Nm and those results are power from motor... We had like 130hp/144Nm....
I mean, after PCV they should be even near what factory promises, even they give little big bigger results than real...
But what you think next, V&H when i get enought money...
And little bit of topic, do they made slipper clutch for M109? had almost accident, because i don´t have gear indicator, and i put accidentally the first gear on while turning right on crossroad with too much speed so back tire went lock and i almost flip the bike.
Last edited by tv79; 06-17-2016 at 03:26 PM.
Well, after I installed a pcV and some mods I decided to see where I am at. I basically wanted a baseline to decide if spending $500 on a tune is necessary. I got a map file from Latinrascal since our setups are very similar. I am pleased with the results, however I am running pretty lean according to the Dyno operator. Anyway, here are the results.....not too shabby considering the map is "generic" to my bike.
2016 M109R BOSS
Bassani Pro Turnouts
Baron's Big Air Kit
Dyno tuned at Twin Performance Cycles in Garner NC
Healtech XTRE to be installed soon(it doesn't arrive until Monday😢
I see some pretty impressive numbers on this thread for the mods that have been done. I will take what I got out of mine as you can see by the pre-tune graph there was a horrible lean spot that had been eliminated via the tune.
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2013 m109r 2500miles
cobra swept exhaust
power commander v
before Dyno tune
after Dyno tune
would have liked to do a stock run before I added things to see what bone stock was but couldn't. the shop did a great job and they said the map I had load was real close on a/f but they sill managed to gain me an extra 4hp and 2ft lbs of torque. wish it was a bit more, but the bike is much smoother now as well
So I had my bike's ECU flashed and dyno tuned at Jupiter Cycle Racing in Jupiter FL. They have a good reputation. My bike is stock except for K&ns, I like the quieter exhaust and slash cut OEM look. I wanted the lean fuel air ratio corrected and to get rid of all the snatchy, jerky throttle issues in 1-3. The bike is totally different now. The power curve is more like an inline 4. Much much better and more rideable especially in lower gears / speeds. My problem is someone put over 250 miles on the bike the week it was there. I thought this was pretty excessive as if someone had been riding it all week or something. The owner left just before I paid and got my bike back so I had to email him asking about it. He said no one rode it on the street at all and the miles were from the dyno tune. IS that a normal amount of miles to expect from a dyno tune? I really can't say anything. I'm not going to call him a liar as I've never had a bike dyno tuned before. What has your experience been?
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The M109R speedometer is read off the back tire. And there is no way they put 250 miles on it on a dyno. 10 miles would be excessive. Someone rode the bike and the owner is focking lying his ass off about it. They probably thrashed it like a rented mule as well. I'd be pissed if it was me. I bet they didn't even put premium in the tank when filling it.
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The OP says the bike was at the shop for a entire week.
If the shop was tuning the entire ECU map set and actually had the bike up on the dyno all day for the time it was in the shop then it is totally believable that they put 250 miles on the bike.
I have gone through an entire tank of gas many times in a day on my dyno.
Tank of gas doing lots of pulls including WOT runs is going to be over 100 miles worth of equivalent street riding.