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    Keyless start for the 9. Went to an automobile show today and found out that some korean company are testing the market for a keyless start for motorcycles. Like the new Kia's that have a keyless ignition but the push of a button.

    They installed it on one of the bike on show and seems to work okay. The remote range is 1 meter around the bike. Security wise seems okay by their descriptions. They reckon it should be on the market for about $100. And those who put in their name and contacts can have a 20% discount when it is in the market.

    What do you guys think? Do they have this in the States and in Europe?

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    My last HD had it from factory. You have a round fob in your pocket and as soon as you walked out of range, the alarm would arm on its own.

    One nice thing was you could put your helmet and gloves on inside on a cold day because you did not need to deal with a key once you got to the bike.

    Because of getting in that habit, I have left the key in my 9 on several occasions.

    When Indians ran this land, there were no taxes, no debt, plenty of game, clean water, women did all of the work, men hunted and fished all day and had sex all night.

    Only the white man is dumb enough to think he could improve on that system

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    Great idea....any details on manufacturer??

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalM109R View Post
    Keyless start for the 9.....The remote range is 1 meter around the bike.
    So it saves you from walking one more meter and starting the bike the "old fashioned" way. I guess I don't get it. Seems like a complete waste of money and just a silly gadget to add to your bike for the sake of just adding a gadget.

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    I like it! With the keyfob i have I already leave the key in the bike most of the time. If you don't know where it goes you won't see that it's there. But in high traffic area's where I can't keep and eye on it I still pull the key, like you say, it can be a pain to get on the bike, pull on your gloves and find out you need to fish a key out of your pocket.
    I have friend who has the keyless start on his Nissam Altima. He loves it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaRoller View Post
    So it saves you from walking one more meter and starting the bike the "old fashioned" way. I guess I don't get it. Seems like a complete waste of money and just a silly gadget to add to your bike for the sake of just adding a gadget.
    If you've never had a car with the total keyless entry and push button start you probably wouldn't understand. I have this on my Toyota. Just leave fob in pocket, walk up to door, grab handle, it unlocks. Sit in car, place foot on brake, press button. You're off & running.

    This would be a very nice feature on a bike, especially if it did arm your alarm, assuming you have one. Just wonder what kind of battery drain it would have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaRoller View Post
    So it saves you from walking one more meter and starting the bike the "old fashioned" way. I guess I don't get it. Seems like a complete waste of money and just a silly gadget to add to your bike for the sake of just adding a gadget.

    It is more about saving you from needing to dig your key out of your pocket to stick it in the bike or needing to remove the key from the bike when you leave it.

    When Indians ran this land, there were no taxes, no debt, plenty of game, clean water, women did all of the work, men hunted and fished all day and had sex all night.

    Only the white man is dumb enough to think he could improve on that system

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockey View Post
    If you've never had a car with the total keyless entry and push button start you probably wouldn't understand. I have this on my Toyota. Just leave fob in pocket, walk up to door, grab handle, it unlocks. Sit in car, place foot on brake, press button. You're off & running.

    This would be a very nice feature on a bike, especially if it did arm your alarm, assuming you have one. Just wonder what kind of battery drain it would have.
    Quote Originally Posted by Square Rounder View Post
    It is more about saving you from needing to dig your key out of your pocket to stick it in the bike or needing to remove the key from the bike when you leave it.
    I guess I don't view putting a key into the ignition as a pain. I have no interest in it and so I'm just answering the OP's question of "What do you guys think of this?". But I'm also not one of those techy guys that has to have the latest IPhone, IPad and whatever else is the current new gadget either so that might be part of it.

    But I'm sure they're will be many who will like the idea.

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    My key (toilet bowl mod) never comes out unless I need it to unlatch the seat. Plus, it has a factory push button start.
    How does this keyless system work regarding the cycling process and clutch?

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    I thought the keyless push button start on my Infinity was a joke....at first. Same reasons as stated here. I mean, come on, how lazy can a person be. But....after living with it for a while, I can honestly say it is very nice to have. True, getting a key out of your pocket and starting your car is not that big of a deal. But it's even less of a big deal to simply push the start button.

    I'd like to see it on all my bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeorgiaRoller View Post
    I guess I don't view putting a key into the ignition as a pain. I have no interest in it and so I'm just answering the OP's question of "What do you guys think of this?". But I'm also not one of those techy guys that has to have the latest IPhone, IPad and whatever else is the current new gadget either so that might be part of it.

    But I'm sure they're will be many who will like the idea.
    Really? You never put your helmet and gloves on and then realized your key was in your pocket and now a glove needs to come back off to get to it?

    I do that almost every time I wear gloves. That alone is enough of a reason for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by hunt1moore View Post
    My key (toilet bowl mod) never comes out unless I need it to unlatch the seat. Plus, it has a factory push button start.
    How does this keyless system work regarding the cycling process and clutch?
    It is just a switch to bypass the key. When the fob is in range, it is like the key is in. when the fob is not in range, it is like the key is not in.

    There are no changes in the operation of anything else.

    When Indians ran this land, there were no taxes, no debt, plenty of game, clean water, women did all of the work, men hunted and fished all day and had sex all night.

    Only the white man is dumb enough to think he could improve on that system

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    Wouldn't you have to get the key to unlock or lock the steering lock anyways? plus you would always have to leave the bike in neutral and I am always in the ahabbit of leaving it in gear so it does not have a chance of rolling espeacially on the steep hills of South beach!

    Seems like 1 more gadget to add to the electrical system to go worry about!

    Maybe if i was up North!

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    Quote Originally Posted by juice109 View Post
    Wouldn't you have to get the key to unlock or lock the steering lock anyways? plus you would always have to leave the bike in neutral and I am always in the ahabbit of leaving it in gear so it does not have a chance of rolling espeacially on the steep hills of South beach!

    Seems like 1 more gadget to add to the electrical system to go worry about!

    Maybe if i was up North!

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    People actually use the lock on the tree?

    My bike does not even have one.

    Why would you need to park it in neutral?

    We are not talking about "Remote Start", but rather "Keyless Start". You still need to push the starter button on the bike.

    When Indians ran this land, there were no taxes, no debt, plenty of game, clean water, women did all of the work, men hunted and fished all day and had sex all night.

    Only the white man is dumb enough to think he could improve on that system

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    Some time ago, I made a key mod from the end cap of the OEM grip. I upgraded my grips.. I then used the end cap for this mod.

    I got an extra key made and dremeled off the top part.

    I then epoxyed the cut off key end into the end cap...let it cure and I always have my key in the ignition...and it looks like part of the bike.

    No digging for keys....It turns right on.

    Can be done for less then $10

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Rounder View Post
    People actually use the lock on the tree?

    My bike does not even have one.

    Why would you need to park it in neutral?

    We are not talking about "Remote Start", but rather "Keyless Start". You still need to push the starter button on the bike.

    What? Your bike different than ours?
    Anyway, I still don't get how it "cycles" thru the electronics like we all let our 9's do before we push the button.
    You saying that when you get within 1 meter of the bike it automatically cycles?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunt1moore View Post
    What? Your bike different than ours?
    Yes, mine is a little different. I removed the tree lock when I polished the font end and had never used it, so I did not put it back on.



    Quote Originally Posted by hunt1moore View Post
    Anyway, I still don't get how it "cycles" thru the electronics like we all let our 9's do before we push the button.
    You saying that when you get within 1 meter of the bike it automatically cycles?
    I am not sure how the one the OP posted about works, but on the HD version, you use the kill-switch to turn all the power to the bike on or off. The keyless system just provides power to that switch. So, you would turn the kill-switch on, let it cycle, then hit the starter button.

    When Indians ran this land, there were no taxes, no debt, plenty of game, clean water, women did all of the work, men hunted and fished all day and had sex all night.

    Only the white man is dumb enough to think he could improve on that system

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    http://www.digitalguarddog.com/

    Is it gonna be something like this?

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    I don't think everyone understands how it would work........ I want one, but not @ $400

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chris View Post
    Some time ago, I made a key mod from the end cap of the OEM grip. I upgraded my grips.. I then used the end cap for this mod.

    I got an extra key made and dremeled off the top part.

    I then epoxyed the cut off key end into the end cap...let it cure and I always have my key in the ignition...and it looks like part of the bike.

    No digging for keys....It turns right on.

    Can be done for less then $10

    Holla.
    So what do you do for security? From your description, it seems anyone could hop on your ride, hit the ignition switch and drive away? Even if you lock the tree, all they need to do is remove your key, unlock, start and drive away...Am I missing something here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Rounder View Post
    Yes, mine is a little different. I removed the tree lock when I polished the font end and had never used it, so I did not put it back on.





    I am not sure how the one the OP posted about works, but on the HD version, you use the kill-switch to turn all the power to the bike on or off. The keyless system just provides power to that switch. So, you would turn the kill-switch on, let it cycle, then hit the starter button.
    Thanks SR, you have given all the answer.
    And the link Krank provided best describe the product. Not the cost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SilverSurfer View Post
    So what do you do for security? From your description, it seems anyone could hop on your ride, hit the ignition switch and drive away? Even if you lock the tree, all they need to do is remove your key, unlock, start and drive away...Am I missing something here?
    I guess I've been lucky. You would have to know the bike to know that's where the key goes. Then you would have to determine if that was a key or just a part of the bike that was added for looks. Then you would have to have the balls and lack of morals to steal it. Then that person would have to come across my bike at the right time to take advantage of all those factors.

    Too many moons have to be aligned....I ride a bike...so I take chances.
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    My 2011 Nissan Altima has the push button start...I'm hooked. I never have to take the FOB out of my pocket.
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    https://www.m109riders.com/forums/sho...ht=toilet+bowl

    Here you go guys that have never seen the toilet bowl key mod. It has pictures and everything just used the search function to find it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmy450r View Post
    I don't think everyone understands how it would work........ I want one, but not @ $400


    read it again. Expecting to be $100 price range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Square Rounder View Post
    It is more about saving you from needing to dig your key out of your pocket to stick it in the bike or needing to remove the key from the bike when you leave it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by STL-TIGER View Post
    https://www.m109riders.com/forums/sho...ht=toilet+bowl

    Here you go guys that have never seen the toilet bowl key mod. It has pictures and everything just used the search function to find it.

    I also have it listed in the Bang for the Bucks mod thread. There is a link in my signature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrthumper View Post
    Great idea....any details on manufacturer??
    so who makes it and where do we sign to get the 20%discount
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    It was at the local car show that I was introduced to the product. As I said, the koreans are testing the market. Those interested have to sign up. Leaving name and contact number. They will contact those who sign up upon making the final decisions.

    I will offer myself as the guinea pig. When they are ready for allowing it into the market I will purchase one and tell all of you the results.

    In the mean time this is all I got from them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MalM109R View Post
    It was at the local car show that I was introduced to the product. As I said, the koreans are testing the market. Those interested have to sign up. Leaving name and contact number. They will contact those who sign up upon making the final decisions.

    I will offer myself as the guinea pig. When they are ready for allowing it into the market I will purchase one and tell all of you the results.

    In the mean time this is all I got from them.
    please sign me too.. my name is damaso perez. my mail is [email protected]. phone 00584146211293
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