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    Hey guys,

    I am getting ready to trailer down to Sturgis area and thought it was a no brainer to secure bike to trailer. I have hauled my race bikes for years but the m109r is not so easy.

    I found that the handle bars will rotate in the riser and tie downs seem to be too close to switches etc.

    I will try tomorrow to pull forward off front peg mounts forward to secure in chock.

    Next I will go off of the riser and pull directly outwards to the side of the trailer to control side to side movement.

    Lastly I was thinking of wrapping the rear wheel and tieing off each rear corner of the rear of the trailer.

    Anyone have any experience haul their bikes?


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    Purchase a harness for the handlebars. It has straps on it at the ends for the tie downs. Pull the straps down and forward. You should only need one strap for the rear. I usually run it around the swingarm or through the rim and tie it to the left or rignt side of the trailer, depending on what side I have the bike or how many bikes are on the trailer.

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    I hauled my bike last week about 450 miles roundtrip. I have a golfcart trailer that I have two 4x4 blocks of wood in the front spaced the width of the front tire to keep it steady.
    I have the tie downs that the metal hook, loops around the handlebar and secures in a nylon loop on the tiedown. That way there is plenty of room on my handlebars. I secure the back with regular tie downs. There is a metal loop right behind the passenger peg for securing the back. Do not use the peg as it can bend them. The back does n ot need to be cranked down too tight, just enough to keep it from jumping around.
    Hope this helps. If you need me to show you what the tie downs I use on the front, just pm me and I will try to post a photo or get the harness that Ghose has described for the front.
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    this is how i did it on my 9



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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostm109 View Post
    Purchase a harness for the handlebars. It has straps on it at the ends for the tie downs. Pull the straps down and forward. You should only need one strap for the rear. I usually run it around the swingarm or through the rim and tie it to the left or rignt side of the trailer, depending on what side I have the bike or how many bikes are on the trailer.
    you definitely should use a harness for the handlebars, since that will make everything much easier. and i use two straps for the rear, just to be safe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by windycityrider View Post
    you definitely should use a harness for the handlebars, since that will make everything much easier. and i use two straps for the rear, just to be safe.
    Is this what your talking about?

    http://www.lockitt.com/AccessTieDown1.htm#canyondancer

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    Here is the setup futurR uses and it worked good. I don't remember what the straps on the bars were called. Just make sure you check the tension every time you stop.


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    DO NOT USE A HANDLEBAR HARNESS ON THE 9, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT GO OVER THE HAND GRIPS!!!!!! You hit one big bump that throws the bike in an upward motion and it will bend the handlebars. They cannot handle that much stress. Handlebar straps are not designed to be used on an 800 lb street bike. In fact, you shouldn't strap to the handlebars at all. An excellent tie down point for the front straps is the cast iron front footpeg mounting brackets. You can put the "S" hook through the hole on the right side, but you'll need an 18" extension strap (I used two of them for added safety) on the left side because there's no hole in the mounting bracket. For the rear I hook two of the 18" straps to a metal keeper and wrap them around the rear tire and wheel. I trailer my 9 almost every weekend using this method and it works great!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jdmitchell View Post
    Here is the setup futurR uses and it worked good. I don't remember what the straps on the bars were called. Just make sure you check the tension every time you stop.


    i am appalled to see your bike in a trailer mitchell!!!

    and also remember that the straps should always bet pulling the bike forward into the front wheels chock.

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    Here's how I tie mine down:
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    double wow!!

    wow #1- you pull with a corolla!? awesome i found a new use for mine!!

    wow #2- arent your front tie downs a bit low on the bike?? i would have though that you would want those higher?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghostm109 View Post
    Purchase a harness for the handlebars. It has straps on it at the ends for the tie downs. Pull the straps down and forward. You should only need one strap for the rear. I usually run it around the swingarm or through the rim and tie it to the left or rignt side of the trailer, depending on what side I have the bike or how many bikes are on the trailer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pynikal View Post
    double wow!!

    wow #1- you pull with a corolla!? awesome i found a new use for mine!!

    wow #2- arent your front tie downs a bit low on the bike?? i would have though that you would want those higher?
    Yep, the ole Corolla does just fine pulling the 9. In fact I set the cruise at 75 on the highway and barely know it's even back there.

    These front tie down locations aren't too low at all. They keep the bike pulled securely into the wheel chock (which also holds the bike in a vertical positon). The rear straps keep the bike from moving side to side. This tie down setup works extremely well.
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    I can't stess enough these handlebar straps are not made for 800 lb bikes. They are made to be used with light weight dirt bikes. Even the places that sell them will tell you not to use them on these heavy street bikes.

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    would those straps work on a RC51?? @400lbs

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    Quote Originally Posted by pynikal View Post
    would those straps work on a RC51?? @400lbs
    The best thing to do is call the manufacturer of the straps and they can give you a max recommended bike weight for the straps.

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    they are called canyon dancers.... Bigpapa swears by them uses them for his bikes... I personally go around the bars with an extension strap or the lower triple trees...

    dlp sells them...




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    Quote Originally Posted by CMHGUY View Post
    they are called canyon dancers.... Bigpapa swears by them uses them for his bikes... I personally go around the bars with an extension strap or the lower triple trees...

    dlp sells them...



    Those are the exact straps I called about and the manufacturer will tell you NOT to use these on these heavy street bikes. Think about how much stress is being put on the handlebars with the tie down points being way out on the ends the handlebars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by grampi View Post
    DO NOT USE A HANDLEBAR HARNESS ON THE 9, ESPECIALLY THE ONES THAT GO OVER THE HAND GRIPS!!!!!! You hit one big bump that throws the bike in an upward motion and it will bend the handlebars. They cannot handle that much stress. Handlebar straps are not designed to be used on an 800 lb street bike. In fact, you shouldn't strap to the handlebars at all. An excellent tie down point for the front straps is the cast iron front footpeg mounting brackets. You can put the "S" hook through the hole on the right side, but you'll need an 18" extension strap (I used two of them for added safety) on the left side because there's no hole in the mounting bracket. For the rear I hook two of the 18" straps to a metal keeper and wrap them around the rear tire and wheel. I trailer my 9 almost every weekend using this method and it works great!
    Quote Originally Posted by grampi View Post
    I can't stess enough these handlebar straps are not made for 800 lb bikes. They are made to be used with light weight dirt bikes. Even the places that sell them will tell you not to use them on these heavy street bikes.
    Quote Originally Posted by grampi View Post
    Those are the exact straps I called about and the manufacturer will tell you NOT to use these on these heavy street bikes. Think about how much stress is being put on the handlebars with the tie down points being way out on the ends the handlebars.

    The Canyondancers USED TO only be made for sportbikes, with the more narrow handlebars. THOSE MODELS are definitely not recommended for larger, cruisers. However, if you did your homework, you'd know that they recently (this year) came out with a new model of canyondancers that are specifically MADE FOR CRUISERS!!!

    The ends are large enough to go right over the handlebars of the M109, and they worked on our bikes, all the way to and from Staunton 2 weeks ago. And, if you know anything about the roads in the VA/MD/DC area, you'd know that we hit some pot holes that you could lose a small car in, and the bikes never budged an inch!

    I'll swear by the canyondancers...you just have to purchase the RIGHT ones!



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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerGranny View Post
    The Canyondancers USED TO only be made for sportbikes, with the more narrow handlebars. THOSE MODELS are definitely not recommended for larger, cruisers. However, if you did your homework, you'd know that they recently (this year) came out with a new model of canyondancers that are specifically MADE FOR CRUISERS!!!

    The ends are large enough to go right over the handlebars of the M109, and they worked on our bikes, all the way to and from Staunton 2 weeks ago. And, if you know anything about the roads in the VA/MD/DC area, you'd know that we hit some pot holes that you could lose a small car in, and the bikes never budged an inch!

    I'll swear by the canyondancers...you just have to purchase the RIGHT ones!
    I haven't enquired about them since last year, so you're right, I wouldn't have known about the newest ones. I still think they put too much stress on the handlebars, but I guess if they've been working for you they must be ok. I know all the info I've read about straping bikes to trailers say to never strap to handlebars on heavy bikes. I prefer hooking to the beefy cast iron footpeg mounts. I KNOW those aren't going to bend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grampi View Post
    I haven't enquired about them since last year, so you're right, I wouldn't have known about the newest ones. I still think they put too much stress on the handlebars, but I guess if they've been working for you they must be ok. I know all the info I've read about straping bikes to trailers say to never strap to handlebars on heavy bikes. I prefer hooking to the beefy cast iron footpeg mounts. I KNOW those aren't going to bend!

    Logically, it sounds reasonable to doubt the strength of the handlebars, but I'm trusting that since the company that manufacturers Canyondancers has been successfully producing them for sport bikes for several years, they'd do the proper R&D necessary to protect their businesses reputation and create a product that works properly for the larger cruiser-style bikes. I'm putting my trust in that, unless I learn otherwise.
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    BikerGranny would rip your head off, and spit down your neck. You have NO idea who you're messing with. She'll be coming at you with razor blades and lemon juice. You'll be crying when she's done with you. That is a promise. Normally there is no fighting at the meet. But, I may make an exception in your case. LYIANFW!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pynikal View Post
    i am appalled to see your bike in a trailer mitchell!!!

    and also remember that the straps should always bet pulling the bike forward into the front wheels chock.
    Trailer......what trailer, my bike hasn't been towed anywhere since the day I bought it. I am pretty sure that the 9,000 + miles I have put on my 9 so far this year is more than almost anybody else.

    And the tie downs were pulling the bike forward......in theory. Some idiot (me, I was distracted by the thought of drinking apple pi) tightened down the back before the front was all the way down and it shifted a bit when we checked it at the first stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerGranny View Post
    Logically, it sounds reasonable to doubt the strength of the handlebars, but I'm trusting that since the company that manufacturers Canyondancers has been successfully producing them for sport bikes for several years, they'd do the proper R&D necessary to protect their businesses reputation and create a product that works properly for the larger cruiser-style bikes. I'm putting my trust in that, unless I learn otherwise.
    Absolutely! It's a different situation altogether if they recommend the product for this use. When I called them they didn't have this product available yet and they said not to use the ones they had at the time on our bikes.

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    Do yourself a favor and get chain links rather than using the hooks that come with tie down straps.



    Once they are secure, the bike suspension can give without the straps coming loose. And you don't have to strap the bike down so tight that the suspension is squashed. I use these in my trailer and my straps never get loose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmustator View Post
    Do yourself a favor and get chain links rather than using the hooks that come with tie down straps.



    Once they are secure, the bike suspension can give without the straps coming loose. And you don't have to strap the bike down so tight that the suspension is squashed. I use these in my trailer and my straps never get loose.
    That sounds like a really good idea. Can't be too careful, especially with the roads in my area!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BikerGranny View Post
    That sounds like a really good idea. Can't be too careful, especially with the roads in my area!
    Yep, proven tech there...

    I had a CBR1000F go over in my trailer once due to suspension flex over a bump someplace. Getting it back upright was a PITA. So I started using these. So no matter how bumpy it gets, the straps will NOT come loose...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmustator View Post
    Yep, proven tech there...

    I had a CBR1000F go over in my trailer once due to suspension flex over a bump someplace. Getting it back upright was a PITA. So I started using these. So no matter how bumpy it gets, the straps will NOT come loose...
    Another good idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by grampi View Post
    Another good idea!
    I agree. You can also buy straps that have a safety catch so that they cannot come apart. The motorcycle straps that Home Depot sells have this feature. I have been using them lately and they work great.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty View Post
    that is the brand name of the harness that i recommend but not the actual model of the one i would use for the 9.

    Quote Originally Posted by BikerGranny View Post
    The Canyondancers USED TO only be made for sportbikes, with the more narrow handlebars. THOSE MODELS are definitely not recommended for larger, cruisers. However, if you did your homework, you'd know that they recently (this year) came out with a new model of canyondancers that are specifically MADE FOR CRUISERS!!!

    The ends are large enough to go right over the handlebars of the M109, and they worked on our bikes, all the way to and from Staunton 2 weeks ago. And, if you know anything about the roads in the VA/MD/DC area, you'd know that we hit some pot holes that you could lose a small car in, and the bikes never budged an inch!

    I'll swear by the canyondancers...you just have to purchase the RIGHT ones!
    very well said mary. harris got me hooked on those as well. you guys always have the good stuff. i really liked those bags that you and harris use to carry your gear on your bikes. i think you posted those a while back. very nice setup.


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    Quote Originally Posted by windycityrider View Post
    that is the brand name of the harness that i recommend but not the actual model of the one i would use for the 9.



    very well said mary. harris got me hooked on those as well. you guys always have the good stuff. i really liked those bags that you and harris use to carry your gear on your bikes. i think you posted those a while back. very nice setup.

    Thanks, sweetie! Yeah, we love those bags...they fit great and look decent on the bikes, and we were shocked to find that we could fit 3-4 days of clothing and toiletries in each bag, so it's real easy to get away for a long weekend with them!



    Not sure if that's the pic you're thinking of; we took several, but this one gives a pretty good idea of how they look, and how much they hold. Being of the female species, it's difficult for me to "pack light", so you can see that mine is a little more E-X-P-A-N-D-E-D than Harris' is, LOL!

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    And, they come with a waterproof cover, which came in very handy on our Atlantic City/Ocean City trip...it poured buckets for a solid hour while we were riding from Atlantic City to catch the Ferry over to Cape May...the ONLY thing on the bikes that was dry when we reached the Ferry was the bags!

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    BikerGranny would rip your head off, and spit down your neck. You have NO idea who you're messing with. She'll be coming at you with razor blades and lemon juice. You'll be crying when she's done with you. That is a promise. Normally there is no fighting at the meet. But, I may make an exception in your case. LYIANFW!

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