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    doesnt look like theres alot of clearance under the bike as it comes to doing an oil change. does anyone have issues doing an oil change without lifting the bike. or is a lift pretty much mandatory? any help would be appreciated. yes, im a newbie. just got the bike yesterday. LOVE IT!

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    Just change it on the side stand.
    Cheap $2 round oil drain pan from any auto parts store and you are good to go.

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    Yup, the reason the drain plugs are located on the left side of the oil pan is for draining while on the side stand. Been doing it that way 13 years now.
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    Make sure look up the steps in the forum or the service manual if you are changing it for your first time. You will understand what I am taking about once you do.
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    I run the back tire up on a 4x4 and use a 2x4 for the kickstand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gottattooz View Post
    I run the back tire up on a 4x4 and use a 2x4 for the kickstand.

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    I did mine the same way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rynosback View Post
    I did mine the same way.
    Same here. That way I can use my drain pan that I use for everything else.

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    Sidestand isn't an issue as others have said. One hint-buy an oil filter with a hex nut on the end-makes changing a lot easier (K&N, perhaps others). There is no room to get a strap wrench or cap type without pulling the cowl (at least I wasn't able to). And I wasn't able to get off what looks like an access cover that holds the two sides of the radiator cowl together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoRenegade View Post
    Sidestand isn't an issue as others have said. One hint-buy an oil filter with a hex nut on the end-makes changing a lot easier (K&N, perhaps others). There is no room to get a strap wrench or cap type without pulling the cowl (at least I wasn't able to). And I wasn't able to get off what looks like an access cover that holds the two sides of the radiator cowl together.
    That is not true. I used Suzuki OE filters and there filter cap took it off with no issues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rynosback View Post
    That is not true. I used Suzuki OE filters and there filter cap took it off with no issues.
    So did I. IIRC, you just have to go in from the bottom with the cup type thingamabob. Since I've had the Low & Mean chin scoop, without the screen, I just fit it right through the opening. Easier than when it was stock. I have a low profile drain pan that works perfectly for the Nine, don't have to use wood blocks to raise the bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bering_C_Sparky View Post
    Just change it on the side stand.
    Cheap $2 round oil drain pan from any auto parts store and you are good to go.

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    Slow down big spender! I get mine for $1 at the local Dollar Tree. Then you can take that extra dollar and buy something else

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklightning View Post
    Slow down big spender! I get mine for $1 at the local Dollar Tree. Then you can take that extra dollar and buy something else
    that just took me back a decade to when Russel Peters was funny
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    I change oil on a lift table with the bike strapped down lightly. I drilled a hole through the black plastic piece that connects both radiator shrouds. The oil filter end cap wrench is then accessible with a 3/8" extension through the plastic piece.

    I had difficulty removing the filter the first time because the Incredible Hulk tightened it. There is very little room to connect and turn a strap wrench, water pumps, or much of anything else from under the bike when strapped down on a lift.

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    I just did my first oil and filter change. My bike is also lowered so clearance is poor and I am a bigger guy (6' at 270 lbs) so I don't bend or contort very well. Bike on kickstand is best as the plugs are on the kickstand side (lowest part of pans)...others have commented about this as well. I had to use paint trays (2) because drain pan too tall. There is a pop out panel right where the opening is to the oil filter on my bike (its a 2013) and it's held in with two plastic expansion pins. If you are able to remove this piece it will allow you much more access - I didn't as I was concerned about breaking the pins. I am right handed so the high side worked best plus gave me more clearance. Had to lay flat on the ground and position my body where I could reach up with my bare hand into the tiny access opening. I removed my old filter by hand with some effort...just moved it a fraction of a turn several times until I could feel it break loose. I didn't have the Suzuki oil filter wrench but strap wrenches weren't going to work. If your filter is stubborn, try using a very thin rubber like jar/lid remover...gives you extra bite on the filter. When you put new one on, I would suggest not torqueing it on but do it by hand tight method. You'll know if its not tight enough as it will leak. Yes, I am the happy owner of an M109 and absolutely love the power and presence...it's a little tricky cornering like I am used to but I manage it OK (lowering kit makes it a bit quicker to scrape). I can cruise on the highways at 85 w/o breaking a sweat (and no windscreen)...just a blast and I am glad I held out for a low mileage super clean example. Good luck!

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    An oil filter wrench with a swivel handle will work just fine without having to remove any of the plastic or jack up the bike.

    There is just enough room to angle it between the plastic and over the filter and the swivel handle give plenty of clearance to get a good bite and turn on the filter.

    https://www.toolsource.com/oil-filte...n-p-68058.html

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    I have 2 "ramps" I built from 2x12s to get a 5 gallon bucket under my diesel truck. Works good on my 9. Can use the drain pan I already had.

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    Forgot about what Metalman said. Yeah, with the stock lower on the shroud, I had drilled a 1/2 inch hole so I could put a ratchet extension through it. Reach in from the bottom and put cup style thing on the filter. Put extension through hole in lower shroud and loosen. Then take it off the remainder of the way by hand.

    Like I said earlier, with the chin scoop and no mesh in the opening, I just put it all through the opening. Easy-peasy.
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    I change mine on the side stand and use a paint tray for the oil

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    Does a paint tray hold four quarts? The thing I use for a pan barely does. I have to extremely careful sliding it out from under the bike, lest I spill some all over the floor. I hate that!
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    I've been using a standard 13x9 cake pan for years. Fits under the bike while on the side stand. I'm lowered 2" in the rear.
    This came recommended by other members years back. Holds everything just fine.

    I also use the K&N oil filters with the wrench fitting. A stubby wrench works great to get it off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blacklightning View Post
    Slow down big spender! I get mine for $1 at the local Dollar Tree. Then you can take that extra dollar and buy something else
    Might be $2.00 now with all of the tariff wars happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbxer55 View Post
    Does a paint tray hold four quarts? The thing I use for a pan barely does. I have to extremely careful sliding it out from under the bike, lest I spill some all over the floor. I hate that!
    It holds the 4 Qts. Its pretty full though. I put it in a large drip pan just in case it spills a little at I am pulling it out. I used to use the ones from the dollar store and just threw them away.

    I now use the Home Depot thicker orange one. Doesnt bend and flex when I pour it into my oil can.

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    Here is the cap you need to change the filter without removing or drilling anything and 2 small 2x4 blocks (1 for the front and 1 for the rear) and one 4x4 (2 2x4's stacked) gets it off the ground and standing straight up for the oil check.

    As stated earlier the K&N filter works well too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by troutwilly View Post
    I have 2 "ramps" I built from 2x12s to get a 5 gallon bucket under my diesel truck. Works good on my 9. Can use the drain pan I already had.

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