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    Default What happened to the "will this effect you" discussion?

    Yesterday there was a good thread on here about how the federal budget cuts will be effecting people.....what happened to it?

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    Probably got too political and got HyperPoliced!

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    Wow, they let gun talk go on for a month, but delete one that affects all of us after a day. Guess they're taking a stand finally.

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    They are okay with gun talk and the other post would have been too if it didn't get too political. Guns aren't political until it gets political.

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    Who cares if a topic gets politcal?....some need to get that way, it's just part of the discussion...that's not a reason to delete...

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    Quote Originally Posted by grampi View Post
    Who cares if a topic gets political?....some need to get that way, it's just part of the discussion...that's not a reason to delete...
    It all boils down to, it's their website, they call the shots. I always thought it would be a good thing to discuss other topics here with the membership we have so we can be more informed then just , what oil do you use, what tires should I buy, BUT it.s their site to run as they see fit....

    I started a thread last week about the draft introduced into congress again , and it didn't last an hour LOL
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    Is the General MC Board the place for that topic? ... it should have been posted in the "off topic" forum. I have not looked but maybe it was moved to there.

    This forum should just be for motorcycle related items and questions ... not that I am the police or anything, just my 2 cents (even though Canada does not make the penny anymore) ... so I guess it is my 5 cents!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapmandoo View Post
    Is the General MC Board the place for that topic? ... it should have been posted in the "off topic" forum. I have not looked but maybe it was moved to there.

    This forum should just be for motorcycle related items and questions ... not that I am the police or anything, just my 2 cents (even though Canada does not make the penny anymore) ... so I guess it is my 5 cents!
    If that were the case, it would get really slow topic wise here. The o/t section keeps things hopping when bike topics are slow.

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    why do these threads get deleted? because some people are too dense and can't accept the fact that a forum that belongs to someone else, paid for by someone else and for a specific purpose, is not their personal playground.

    the reason political posts are not allowed is most likely for the same reason religion, gender, race etc etc are not allowed, those topics breed hate, anger and resentment and nothing else (don't start with the crap about "healthy discussion" either, most people aren't too civil when they argue their rigid points), and that's not healthy for the membership of a forum that was created for a hardware made by Suzuki.

    Is there something wrong with adults discussing current events, including politics and such? not at all, but if you wanna do that pay for a hosting company and your bandwidth and go nuts all day back and forth reciting crap you just read on the internet or watched on TV.

    that's my best guess at why threads get deleted . i may be wrong though.


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    It's just that, not in all cases but certainly sometimes, threads are deleted when they don't need to be...but it's not my site...I've had my say...whether it matters or not....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapmandoo View Post
    Is the General MC Board the place for that topic? ... it should have been posted in the "off topic" forum. I have not looked but maybe it was moved to there.

    This forum should just be for motorcycle related items and questions ... not that I am the police or anything, just my 2 cents (even though Canada does not make the penny anymore) ... so I guess it is my 5 cents!
    It was not moved to "off topic" (which would've been acceptable) it was deleted....

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    Maybe "Will This Effect You?" should have been, "Will This Effect Your Future Mods?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by samdman84 View Post
    Maybe "Will This Effect You?" should have been, "Will This Effect Your Future Mods?"


    I read a little bit of it but then I got depressed to see all those who will be effected. It's stressful enough to be worried about your own life but, man reading that seems like some good people are going to be hurt this year. As far as mod money goes from the sounds of it some guys might have to sell their bikes. The way gas is going up I think I'll sell my SUV before my bike

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big-B View Post
    If that were the case, it would get really slow topic wise here. The o/t section keeps things hopping when bike topics are slow.
    I couldn't agree more. There's only so much we can talk about second gear issues, tire sizes and etc. The OTE is a healthy space and keep things going. People go out of their way to share OTHER interesting things they find online with their fellow riders in here. That's awesome! It shows how much we care about this group of people. It makes the M109R brotherhood stronger imo.

    The sad part is when we loose civility in certain topics. I see people getting bent out of shape every time they read something they don't agree with. THAT's the problem. Then, out of nowhere, you see members going after each other with insults, name calling, offenses and etc. The moderators of this space are FORCED to take action. Deleting the thread and/or simply prohibiting certain topics became (unfortunately) the most effective way of avoiding problems between a few members. I understand where they are coming from with this and I respect it. It is our own fault.

    On another note... I respect it but I don't agree at the same time. To me, myself and I, they should take it to the individual members who don't know how to have an adult conversation without becoming disrespectful toward others or are just trolls. Warn them at first and if the language doesn't change then BAN them from the site. Quality is always better than quantity anyway. Too many nice threads with important and relevant subjects and information were deleted/trolled/ruined because of the actions of the bad apples. I say get rid of the bad apples instead. Just my opinion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom9 View Post
    I couldn't agree more. There's only so much we can talk about second gear issues, tire sizes and etc. The OTE is a healthy space and keep things going. People go out of their way to share OTHER interesting things they find online with their fellow riders in here. That's awesome! It shows how much we care about this group of people. It makes the M109R brotherhood stronger imo.

    The sad part is when we loose civility in certain topics. I see people getting bent out of shape every time they read something they don't agree with. THAT's the problem. Then, out of nowhere, you see members going after each other with insults, name calling, offenses and etc. The moderators of this space are FORCED to take action. Deleting the thread and/or simply prohibiting certain topics became (unfortunately) the most effective way of avoiding problems between a few members. I understand where they are coming from with this and I respect it. It is our own fault.

    On another note... I respect it but I don't agree at the same time. To me, myself and I, they should take it to the individual members who don't know how to have an adult conversation without becoming disrespectful toward others or are just trolls. Warn them at first and if the language doesn't change then BAN them from the site. Quality is always better than quantity anyway. Too many nice threads with important and relevant subjects and information were deleted/trolled/ruined because of the actions of the bad apples. I say get rid of the bad apples instead. Just my opinion.

    Nice post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantom9 View Post
    I couldn't agree more. There's only so much we can talk about second gear issues, tire sizes and etc. The OTE is a healthy space and keep things going. People go out of their way to share OTHER interesting things they find online with their fellow riders in here. That's awesome! It shows how much we care about this group of people. It makes the M109R brotherhood stronger imo.

    The sad part is when we loose civility in certain topics. I see people getting bent out of shape every time they read something they don't agree with. THAT's the problem. Then, out of nowhere, you see members going after each other with insults, name calling, offenses and etc. The moderators of this space are FORCED to take action. Deleting the thread and/or simply prohibiting certain topics became (unfortunately) the most effective way of avoiding problems between a few members. I understand where they are coming from with this and I respect it. It is our own fault.

    On another note... I respect it but I don't agree at the same time. To me, myself and I, they should take it to the individual members who don't know how to have an adult conversation without becoming disrespectful toward others or are just trolls. Warn them at first and if the language doesn't change then BAN them from the site. Quality is always better than quantity anyway. Too many nice threads with important and relevant subjects and information were deleted/trolled/ruined because of the actions of the bad apples. I say get rid of the bad apples instead. Just my opinion.

    That's it in a nutshell. Very FEW just dont want to participate in anything that isnt bike related, so they start pming the mods waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa I agree those no lifes should be the banies...........
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    I used to frequent a pretty good dirt bike forum. They have what is called a "Town Square" to keep all the BS off the rest of the site. Here is their format for this forum...

    Welcome to the Town Square, the spot we set up to keep the garbage from collecting elsewhere on the site. The rules around these parts are pretty simple:1. If you're offended by differing views on politics, religion or other typically argumentative topics, you might want to hit the back button now. You will find ideas here that you'll disagree with.2. If you're thinned skinned and want to participate, you might want to toughen up a bit. Moderators will not respond to reported posts if the reason is because you don't agree with a differing opinion or someone wasn't quite as pleasant as you'd have liked.3. If you become abusive or threatening to others, it might be on a bad day for us and we might hit the ban hammer as therapy. We usually have bad days three days a week. You pick which three. 4. What you see posted in this forum may or may not have been read by admin, moderators or anyone else of little importance. So, if you report a topic or post, assume that we don't agree or disagree with anything. We likely have no idea what you're talking about before you report something to us.5. Have fun and don't take things too seriously. It's the Interwebz afterall!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hunt1moore View Post
    I used to frequent a pretty good dirt bike forum. They have what is called a "Town Square" to keep all the BS off the rest of the site. Here is their format for this forum...

    Welcome to the Town Square, the spot we set up to keep the garbage from collecting elsewhere on the site. The rules around these parts are pretty simple:1. If you're offended by differing views on politics, religion or other typically argumentative topics, you might want to hit the back button now. You will find ideas here that you'll disagree with.2. If you're thinned skinned and want to participate, you might want to toughen up a bit. Moderators will not respond to reported posts if the reason is because you don't agree with a differing opinion or someone wasn't quite as pleasant as you'd have liked.3. If you become abusive or threatening to others, it might be on a bad day for us and we might hit the ban hammer as therapy. We usually have bad days three days a week. You pick which three. 4. What you see posted in this forum may or may not have been read by admin, moderators or anyone else of little importance. So, if you report a topic or post, assume that we don't agree or disagree with anything. We likely have no idea what you're talking about before you report something to us.5. Have fun and don't take things too seriously. It's the Interwebz afterall!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chapmandoo View Post
    Is the General MC Board the place for that topic? ... it should have been posted in the "off topic" forum. I have not looked but maybe it was moved to there.

    This forum should just be for motorcycle related items and questions ... not that I am the police or anything, just my 2 cents (even though Canada does not make the penny anymore) ... so I guess it is my 5 cents!

    couldn't agree more, and on the 5 cent thing too. :)

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    I let the thread run until it got into the same old Republican vs Democrat and Presidential debate, then it had to go. It wasn't that it was just in the wrong section as they can easily be moved, but we have clear rules about political discussions. Stay away from that and the posts would stay. Now if it's obviously a political debate to begin with it's not going to stay around very long.

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    can we have a "say what ever you want section ?" that can only be accessed by registered members ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RUBZERK View Post
    can we have a "say what ever you want section ?" that can only be accessed by registered members ?
    That's not likely. If you notice the OT section is called the Off Topic Experiment. The admins didn't want an off-topic section at all but agreed to give it a try just to keep non-bike topics off the main boards. Since this is a family friendly board the last thing that will happen is to have an area where people can say anything they feel like saying, with the results that would bring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Board Support-1 View Post
    That's not likely. If you notice the OT section is called the Off Topic Experiment. The admins didn't want an off-topic section at all but agreed to give it a try just to keep non-bike topics off the main boards. Since this is a family friendly board the last thing that will happen is to have an area where people can say anything they feel like saying, with the results that would bring.
    Typically what I have found in the past, it's like a free for all and never works out well. IMO there's plenty of other places for that stuff.


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    The amount of time I spend on this site is considerably less than I used to spend here because of such follies. I had a number of good posts on that thread, all gone because someone does not like political. I get tired and bored of talking about these motorcycles we ride, you can only rehash it so many times before, tata, seeya. There are a lot of other websites I frequent these days that do not get so anal on the subject, and hence, they are more fun to be on. I despise politics as much as others, but at least I have a backbone, and can just click back if it's going somewhere I do not want to go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Board Support-1 View Post
    I let the thread run until it got into the same old Republican vs Democrat and Presidential debate, then it had to go. It wasn't that it was just in the wrong section as they can easily be moved, but we have clear rules about political discussions. Stay away from that and the posts would stay. Now if it's obviously a political debate to begin with it's not going to stay around very long.
    I guess I didn't see any of the political stuff in that thread, but then again, I didn't see a lot of the posts that were posted before it got shut down either...

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbxer55 View Post
    The amount of time I spend on this site is considerably less than I used to spend here because of such follies. I had a number of good posts on that thread, all gone because someone does not like political. I get tired and bored of talking about these motorcycles we ride, you can only rehash it so many times before, tata, seeya. There are a lot of other websites I frequent these days that do not get so anal on the subject, and hence, they are more fun to be on. I despise politics as much as others, but at least I have a backbone, and can just click back if it's going somewhere I do not want to go.
    Where are you hanging these days? I like a little truthfulness in the political arena and really don't like the over protective PC crowd. Also, I think a lot have blocked my posts (which is fine, but childish, imho) and it really is boring when you post answers and charts and then people respond like it wasn't even there. lol My main question for the admins would be this: It has been the otExperiment since I have been here, when will it no longer be an experiment? It should either be or not be, but quite frankly, like Cbxer says haow many times can we keep rehashing the same stuff over and over again. With the exception of the occasional for sale threads, which incidentally many break the forum rules by posting in them, and the usual trod and Big b bs, there just isn't much here anymore. And like theHuff says, "everything is political, everything"

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    Quote Originally Posted by draggin61 View Post
    Where are you hanging these days? I like a little truthfulness in the political arena and really don't like the over protective PC crowd. Also, I think a lot have blocked my posts (which is fine, but childish, imho) and it really is boring when you post answers and charts and then people respond like it wasn't even there. lol My main question for the admins would be this: It has been the otExperiment since I have been here, when will it no longer be an experiment? It should either be or not be, but quite frankly, like Cbxer says haow many times can we keep rehashing the same stuff over and over again. With the exception of the occasional for sale threads, which incidentally many break the forum rules by posting in them, and the usual trod and Big b bs, there just isn't much here anymore. And like theHuff says, "everything is political, everything"
    easy there fella!
    Block your posts, now who would do that?


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