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    6 weeks ago finally got my bike back from private shop with the 2nd gear repair. Gear change was good but had a fast idle problem, which I finally took to Suzuki shop for Diagnostic. Turned out that the timing to the rear cylinder was out and the compression was down by nearly 40%. Apparently when the 2nd gear problem is corrected the rear Piston is removed to get access to the gears. When carried out in Suzuki shop the cylinder bore is checked and the rings are replaced ( ALWAYS) Cost for 2nd gear was $2400 against $ 3500 with Suzuki. I now have to pay $1400 for Suzuki to rectify the fault, ( Providing that there is nothing wrong with the cyclinder, which could be another $500) Within 2 weeks of gear repair I was getting clouds of black smoke on startup. Suzuki Tech said that I obviously had ring problems of some sort. I now have to wait another week for parts to arrive and probably 4 -5 days in shop. The guy who carried out my original repair took nearly 3 months giving me every excuse in the book for delay. Illness, Crashed car, wrong parts etc. Moral of the story is that unless you can do the job yourself or know a top grade mechanic, go with the dealer. Mine has assured me that work is warrantied against same problems occurring. So learn from my mistake guys. Ride Safe

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    Good write up will take note.
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    Man sounds rough. Will be keeping that in mind, thanks.

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    So what do you plan to do about the first repair being botched?


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    Sorry to hear about your string of bad luck, peter. Hopefully, you'll be back up and riding again soon. Let me know when you want to hit the curves again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big-B View Post
    So what do you plan to do about the first repair being botched?
    Well Big- B went back to see the original repair, he said original rings were ok. But also found out that he had re-used gaskets with sealer. He also said if I was disatissfied take him to small claims, My buddy wants to torch the place LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnspark View Post
    Well Big- B went back to see the original repair, he said original rings were ok. But also found out that he had re-used gaskets with sealer. He also said if I was disatissfied take him to small claims, My buddy wants to torch the place LOL
    Wow, so he put it back together wrong, and that was his reply! Yeah, get some retribution there some how. Good luck! Sounds like a stand up guy! Sorry to hear it.


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    Small claims it is alls you have to do is have your dealer give you a written letter on what the prior guy did wrong and what they had to fix and you should be good. FREAK HIM

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnspark View Post
    Well Big- B went back to see the original repair, he said original rings were ok. But also found out that he had re-used gaskets with sealer. He also said if I was disatissfied take him to small claims, My buddy wants to torch the place LOL
    I had an issue with a bike shop and torching the place actually crossed my mind. Someone else must have had the same idea because it happened a few days later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JAY G View Post
    Small claims it is alls you have to do is have your dealer give you a written letter on what the prior guy did wrong and what they had to fix and you should be good. FREAK HIM


    Quote Originally Posted by AWESOME109 View Post
    I had an issue with a bike shop and torching the place actually crossed my mind. Someone else must have had the same idea because it happened a few days later.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rnspark View Post
    6 weeks ago finally got my bike back from private shop with the 2nd gear repair. Gear change was good but had a fast idle problem, which I finally took to Suzuki shop for Diagnostic. Turned out that the timing to the rear cylinder was out and the compression was down by nearly 40%. Apparently when the 2nd gear problem is corrected the rear Piston is removed to get access to the gears. When carried out in Suzuki shop the cylinder bore is checked and the rings are replaced ( ALWAYS) Cost for 2nd gear was $2400 against $ 3500 with Suzuki. I now have to pay $1400 for Suzuki to rectify the fault, ( Providing that there is nothing wrong with the cyclinder, which could be another $500) Within 2 weeks of gear repair I was getting clouds of black smoke on startup. Suzuki Tech said that I obviously had ring problems of some sort. I now have to wait another week for parts to arrive and probably 4 -5 days in shop. The guy who carried out my original repair took nearly 3 months giving me every excuse in the book for delay. Illness, Crashed car, wrong parts etc. Moral of the story is that unless you can do the job yourself or know a top grade mechanic, go with the dealer. Mine has assured me that work is warrantied against same problems occurring. So learn from my mistake guys. Ride Safe

    Sorry to hear about your issue, you can never be to careful I guess.. I just wanted to chime in on the warranty.. I just had my motor rebuilt by Hall's Motor Sports in Daphne,Al , due to a seized #2 connector rod. They informed me that I would only get a 30 day chraftmanship warranty on the repairs....that is what Suzuki offers.. which I think is BS, I feel they should atleast warranty it for 1 yr on labor....but Oh well!!! jm2c

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    Quote Originally Posted by rnspark View Post
    The guy who carried out my original repair took nearly 3 months giving me every excuse in the book for delay. Illness, Crashed car, wrong parts etc.
    Let me guess,,,

    James McCoy STRIKES AGAIN!

    Right?

    I'll bet he also threw in a "death in the family" somewhere too...

    Quote Originally Posted by rnspark View Post
    Well Big- B went back to see the original repair, he said original rings were ok. But also found out that he had re-used gaskets with sealer. He also said if I was disatissfied take him to small claims, My buddy wants to torch the place LOL
    It HAS to be McCoy after reading this...
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    That's a lot of money. I think small claims is the way to go. Sue him for his repair and the cost for the dealer to fix it. I'd like to support the little guy, but stories like this terrify me.
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    It HAS to be McCoy after reading this...
    Hasnt someone beaten this guy to death yet?

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    Default SAME PROBLEM

    So I guess my first question is did the original person who did the work on the 2nd gear did he use OEM parts? If he did you will have the same problem again in time. As I understand the problem and I may be wrong if you don't go with the stepped up aftermarket parts and you use the OEM parts to make the repair your just putting right back in the situation it was in to begin with. I am still in waiting for a machanic here on the eastcoast that can make the repair useing the right aftermarket parts where I don't have to be bother with this fugly problem again. KIT and let us all know how it turns out and if the parts hold up. I still think the whole 2nd gear problem with the beast is just a shame, and SUZUKI should have their arms open to assist us with the problem. There are simply tooooooo many of us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by THUNDER217 View Post
    So I guess my first question is did the original person who did the work on the 2nd gear did he use OEM parts? If he did you will have the same problem again in time. As I understand the problem and I may be wrong if you don't go with the stepped up aftermarket parts and you use the OEM parts to make the repair your just putting right back in the situation it was in to begin with. I am still in waiting for a machanic here on the eastcoast that can make the repair useing the right aftermarket parts where I don't have to be bother with this fugly problem again. KIT and let us all know how it turns out and if the parts hold up. I still think the whole 2nd gear problem with the beast is just a shame, and SUZUKI should have their arms open to assist us with the problem. There are simply tooooooo many of us.
    You very well may not have the problem again. The problem is are you a gambling man? I would hate to pay $2500+ to put stock crap in though. I know that if mine fails, it will be tore down that day and start the repair process but it definitely is a beast of a job. I did one and swore not to do another one until it was one of our bikes. I agree, it would be nice to find someone local that everyone could trust. We need to clone FutureR!!!! Then we can plant him around the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palv109 View Post
    Hasnt someone beaten this guy to death yet?
    And as long as he remains in business, we still will. He is STILL ripping people off to this day. Go google and you will see.

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    It sounds like a tough spot to be in, I personally do not trust the mechanics at a dealer anymore.
    Up until this year I always brought my bike to a dealer to get the oil changed due to not having anywhere to do it on my own. A buddy opened up his own shop so I figured I'd support his buisness and brought my bike there to get the oil changed. Well I found out that one of the two drain plugs has never been removed, meaning that I had never had a full oil change in 17k miles! I took my bike to 2 different Suzuki dealers.
    Leave the attitude at home and just ride!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grey Ghost View Post
    It sounds like a tough spot to be in, I personally do not trust the mechanics at a dealer anymore.
    Up until this year I always brought my bike to a dealer to get the oil changed due to not having anywhere to do it on my own. A buddy opened up his own shop so I figured I'd support his buisness and brought my bike there to get the oil changed. Well I found out that one of the two drain plugs has never been removed, meaning that I had never had a full oil change in 17k miles! I took my bike to 2 different Suzuki dealers.
    Just curious, but what was the indication that the plug had never been removed?

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    From what the mechanic said the plug head was prisitine as if no tools have ever touched it where the other had minor scratches and was rounded a little from using a universal socket. It was over tightened unlike the other, and the end was pretty much black from old oil.
    Leave the attitude at home and just ride!

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    Thanks for all your input guys, if it stops one of us from making the same mistake it will be worthwhile, and Josh I will certainly be in touch when I get bike back

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