Dyno'd the Power Pro finally

[MRB]

I just wanted to throw this out there cause there's always that question in the back of your head of how the new powerpro performs, well I finally had it all done but with a change of exhaust too and here's what the end results were.

My first dyno right before the change was with these items
- Dual Hyper Chargers
- V+H Big Shot Exhaust (w/baffle)
- PC 3
End Result was 124.93 whp. and 112.57 torque

Then I changed to these items
- Dual Hyper Chargers
- Velocity Pro 2 into 1 (w/baffle)
- Cobra Power Pro
End Result was 125.39 whp. and 128.02 torque

And yes I have it all on paper, done at the local suzuki dealer.

And I also had my velocity pro exhaust sound checked and I passed for the new law coming january 1st. The max was 92, give or take 1. I came in at 89.

[Big-B]

Great #'s Mike. How was the a/f? Post up the sheet when you can.

[antmor69]

[Canuk]

Wow. Those are higher numbers than we normally see with mods like that.
I'm even more surprised that the Velocity Pro didn't take you down in HP. I have that pipe, and it killed a ton of HP on mine from that of the stock exhaust.
I'm glad you're getting those numbers though. !
Like to see the chart.

[futurR]

Well, that goes to show people that the velocity pro does make power and those that put it on and had tuned with poor numbers----wellllll, it is as i said, it was a bad tune. Now lets just hope that dyno sheet, that you need to post, says "SAE smoothing:5" on it. Good numbers, but follow up and post the sheet please.

[jrrose69]

I had my 9 on a dino a month ago numbers were not that good 111 hp and 110 torq it was hot as hell the guy told me to add 5-6% to the numbers would be closer to actual if in better conditions but he asked me who tuned it i told him no one i had the new cobra power pro self tuner and he said its doing its job because it is spot on a/f mixture he was supose to email me my results but never did get it not a big deal it was a free be our suzuki dealer opened up the dino to all that wanted and picked up the tab

[ducks517]

nice numbers

[Todds9]

I would really be interested to see your dyno sheet. I have done more than 30 runs on the dyno with different combo's. I know each dyno can read different and some read higher than others. Those are good numbers

[Canuk]

Well, that goes to show people that the velocity pro does make power and those that put it on and had tuned with poor numbers----wellllll, it is as i said, it was a bad tune. Now lets just hope that dyno sheet, that you need to post, says "SAE smoothing:5" on it. Good numbers, but follow up and post the sheet please.

I wasn't trying to insult anyone by saying the pipe will drop your HP. I love the look and sound of this pipe, but based on the sheet I got back, the tune I had was good. I posted the sheet with all the parameters used, and no one disagreed. Not many here have done a tune using all the same criteria except the pipe.
If you think this pipe produces good HP, and mine was a bad tune, I'm good with that.
Looks like MRB did well with his, so that's what's important.
Ride safe.

[antmor69]

Not many here have done a tune using all the same criteria except the pipe.

I may be misinterpreting your statement but he didn't only change the pipe. He changed the tuner also.

[futurR]

I wasn't trying to insult anyone by saying the pipe will drop your HP. I love the look and sound of this pipe, but based on the sheet I got back, the tune I had was good. I posted the sheet with all the parameters used, and no one disagreed. Not many here have done a tune using all the same criteria except the pipe.
If you think this pipe produces good HP, and mine was a bad tune, I'm good with that.
Looks like MRB did well with his, so that's what's important.
Ride safe.

Wasn't directed at you by any means, you just got your post in before mine---typing at the same time.

[MRB]

Ok guys just got Home from doing a really nice 8 hour ride with Torq, we hit the lake sunapee area, wow so nice with the change of the trees. I have the two sheets and here they are for all to see.

I do want to say I ask the tech who did the dyno if the machine is accurate or is this a ballpark figure. He said the machine gets calibrated every month due to so much use. This setup is cool it's in a special room all sealed up for sound.

He put in PC5 and stock air at the bottom which was wrong, it was a PC3 and Hyper chargers which I had on since day one.

Before


After

[futurR]

Good deal! SAE and smoothing:5 or is that 3?---see, you have proved my point, it does make power if tuned properly. Great numbers.

[Stavros]

Thanks for posting..I've always felt there were gains with this setup,good to see some real #'s..happy bout the decibal numbers too..those laws will be everywhere before you know it

[MRB]

Good deal! SAE and smoothing:5 or is that 3?---see, you have proved my point, it does make power if tuned properly. Great numbers.

Whats funny is, it was tuned when the PC3 was in it, but I installed the powerpro myself and it was never touched after that. I was wondering if the tech can do anything to the bike now without messing up the powerpro?

I can definitely prove it now, that it definitely has head snapping torque, more than the pc3.

In case of other questions I'm running the E3 spark plugs and T6 Rotella this year. Whats funny is the exhaust pops with the pair valves blocked or open in third gear??

[Schmoof]

Good stuff MRB and that's where I will go as well once I get all my mods done eventually in the spring. They had a 9 with I believe the same hyper chargers installed which I definitely liked but they also had Cobra swept's and a PCIII already installed and the price was 2x what I would pay to install it myself so I just went with a stock 9... but I did them install chromed stock rims before I took delivery.

You ever put up a video of your bike with the new pipe?

[arms92011le]

looks like the first one is smoothing 3 and second one is smoothing 4,nice power

[antmor69]

http://youtu.be/K8E_zMLCRNg

[Syler]

Did you do any stock pulls for comparison?

Don't want to piss in anyone's Cheerios but the margin of error on a Dynojet is significant - probably near 5% and they are notorious for high readings. So, give or take 5HP means there was no change.

A real tuner should tune your bike, not just correct the AF ratio for your new parts - that's not tuning. These guys are just selling you an expensive printout with exagerated numbers. Sorry.

[Zoom]

Good numbers MRB. I'm really glad you had it dynoed with the PC3 and other pipes on it, that shows it not only didn't lose but gained. I like the improvement in torque. I know mine feels like it runs really strong with the Power Pro on it, and good run through the first 3 gears makes me dizzy.

[dd]

I just wanted to throw this out there cause there's always that question in the back of your head of how the new powerpro performs, well I finally had it all done but with a change of exhaust too and here's what the end results were.

My first dyno right before the change was with these items
- Dual Hyper Chargers
- V+H Big Shot Exhaust (w/baffle)
- PC 3
End Result was 124.93 whp. and 112.57 torque

Then I changed to these items
- Dual Hyper Chargers
- Velocity Pro 2 into 1 (w/baffle)
- Cobra Power Pro
End Result was 125.39 whp. and 128.02 torque

And yes I have it all on paper, done at the local suzuki dealer.

And I also had my velocity pro exhaust sound checked and I passed for the new law coming january 1st. The max was 92, give or take 1. I came in at 89.

Are they the Thunder MFG Pro-R HyperCharger - Type A at about 250.00 each ?

[MRB]

their the kuryakyn version which were 700 for the pair.

ill try to post a video tuesday and see if i can figure it out.

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[TRod]

Nice numbers. Proves that the PowerPro is a decent fuel controller. Now for a couple of comments on the SAE factor and the smoothing level.

SAE is a correction factor that attempts to bring the results of dyno runs done in varying atmospheric conditions back to a common set of conditions so that dyno runs done in different conditions can be compared. An engine will make more power with cool dense air or lower elevation than it will with hot dry air or at higher elevations. The SAE is pretty standard way of applying a correction factor. It's not perfect but it's a pretty good way to compensate for diff conditions.

The smoothing is a level of averaging applied to the actual data when it's graphed. Smoothing goes from 0 to 5 with 0 having no smoothing (the drum data is graphed as it is recorded) to 5 where the data is averaged at the highest level to produce the smoothest graph. Generally, the lower the smoothing level the higher the peak numbers will be since more smoothing will bring the highs down and the lows up from the raw data. If you want to make direct comparisons of runs then they should all be graphed at the same smoothing level because the slight peaks in the data can show more HP/TQ than what is actually being produced. I just went back to my dyno runs (I have the data files for them) and changed the smoothing level from 5 to 0 and got an increase in both HP and TQ for the lower smoothing level. It wasn't much (about 2 HP) but if the data was more wiggly, then it could have been more of a difference. If you look at the graph above, there is a little wiggle in the HP numbers in the 105 to 125 MPH area. The max power will pick up the highest value recorded at the particular smoothing level selected (and the operator can select whatever level he chooses when he graphs it). If the smoothing had been at 5 instead of 4, the max values would have been slightly lower but probably not much.

[Gsxrrobb]

their the kuryakyn version which were 700 for the pair.

ill try to post a video tuesday and see if i can figure it out.

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This is great news for me because I have the exact same set up on my 2011. I chose the Velocity Pro and Pro Chargers because of the looks. I did not want to lose HP/torque. I also have the Cobra Power pro auto tuner. For the most part I did not want my seat of the pants dyno to notice any losses. Once the changes were made my seat dyno did not detect anything wrong and it felt a little stronger. I just figured it was probably the awesome sound from my new exhaust. This makes me believe that I may have gained a little HP/TQ like my seat dyno was trying to tell me!