Hk sideburners and installation

[rickpay1]

Going to be installing the sideburners on my 109 next week. Is a 09 le and already has the power commander v as well as heal tech installed. Have been reading posts here and have questions lol. Do I go ahead and remove the set valve now, turn off the fi light as well, and do I need to install the oxygen sensor adapters the fit on the end of those wires. I know a lot to ask but if I want to do this right the first time this is the group to ask, and thanks in advance for the help.

[antmor69]

I don't have a pcv. I've got the cobra PowrPro. No oxygen sensors. But as far as the stock exhaust, I unplugged the set actuator and left it all attached to the exhaust. Then pull the wire on the PCM. Grey plug. Pin #7. That will keep you from getting an FI light from the set. Maybe someone else can chime in on the other part.

[Nitrogary]

did you buy a US model bike ? you shouldnt have O2 sensors bro....but if your going to install them,did you get the sideburners version with the bungs in them ? if you did, then just wait and do it all at once.

taking care of that wire on the ecm is an easily done 8 minute job, 10 seconds of which is actually pushing the wire out of the connector.

[rickpay1]

did you buy a US model bike ? you shouldnt have O2 sensors bro....but if your going to install them,did you get the sideburners version with the bungs in them ? if you did, then just wait and do it all at once.

taking care of that wire on the ecm is an easily done 8 minute job, 10 seconds of which is actually pushing the wire out of the connector.

i am all for pulling the fi wire but do i also just not put on the new set and also how about the cables etc, just remove them? All i have ever worked in the past are goldwing lol, can do those in my sleep.

[antmor69]

When you pull the exhaust it should look like this:
http://tapatalk.com/mu/cee38864-5228-9f99.jpg
Just leave the cables, actuator and all attached to the stock exhaust.

[bouncer555]

i installed a sideburner this week on my uk spec m1800r, left the set valve attached to exhaust and pulled wire out of ecu, disconnected o2 sensors, runs ok no F1 issues but it was popping and backfiring on decelleration so i clamped the pipes gong to the pair valves, runs lik a dream now.

[Nitrogary]

i am all for pulling the fi wire but do i also just not put on the new set and also how about the cables etc, just remove them? All i have ever worked in the past are goldwing lol, can do those in my sleep. just do what antmore her shows you, then pull the wire outta the ecu...your DONE, NO MAS !

its easy, simple,no problemo !...throw the little set valve metal thingy that somes with the sideburner away.



When you pull the exhaust it should look like this:
http://tapatalk.com/mu/cee38864-5228-9f99.jpg
Just leave the cables, actuator and all attached to the stock exhaust.

now that your exhaust is installed and the bike runs, you may notice a loss of power or popping on deceleration, if either is occurring you will want to install a fuel manager to add fuel to the system...people are selling thier old fuel managers all over the place so you can pick one of those up cheap

[rickpay1]

just do what antmore her shows you, then pull the wire outta the ecu...your DONE, NO MAS !

its easy, simple,no problemo !...throw the little set valve metal thingy that somes with the sideburner away.


now that your exhaust is installed and the bike runs, you may notice a loss of power or popping on deceleration, if either is occurring you will want to install a fuel manager to add fuel to the system...people are selling thier old fuel managers all over the place so you can pick one of those up cheap

thanksfor all the help...im old and slow at times lol...the pict just cleared my head for me lol. have the pcv v and the healtech atre so should be good on the fuel and popping . going to take to a dino next set to have pcv v set correctly, hopefully will get some good numbers.

[rickpay1]

just recieved them and going on tonight...taking off the oem pipes was not bad at ll....new pipes do not look too bad to put on. going to try to do the wire for the fi light as not going to put the set vavle back on. hopes this goes good lol...

[rickpay1]

ok got the pipes on, did the fi light fix with the brown wire but the fi light is still on? need some advice if anybody has some....please

[antmor69]

Did you pull the black wire with a brown stripe?http://tapatalk.com/mu/cee38864-a2d1-228d.jpg

[rickpay1]

followed the directions here to the letter...7th pin brown wire with black stripe...have to tell you love those sideburner pipes,,,great sound and look. just need to figure out this fi light...and thanks for all the help you guys are giving me

[BigpapaM109]

followed the directiond here to the letter...7th pin brown wire with black stripe...have to tell you love those sideburner pipes,,,great sound and look. just need to figure out this fi light...and thanks for all the help you guys are giving me
Really stupid question, but after pulling the wire, did you plug the connector back into the ecu?

[Giddyup109]

Really stupid question, but after pulling the wire, did you plug the connector back into the ecu?
:dontknow: :doh: :redfaced:

[rickpay1]

lol and at this point no such thing as a stupid question lol.....

[rickpay1]

Used method fount here and got the error code c21 any ideas?

[Reaper]

“C21” (P0110-H/L) IAT SENSOR CIRCUIT MALFUNCTION
INSPECTION
Step 1 (When indicating C21:)
1) Turn the ignition switch OFF.
2) Remove the fuel tank. (#6-3)
3) Check the IAT sensor coupler for loose or poor contacts.
If OK, then measure the IAT sensor voltage at the wire side
coupler.
4) Disconnect the coupler and turn the ignition switch ON.
5) Measure the voltage between Dg wire terminal
A and
ground.
6) If OK, then measure the voltage between Dg wire terminal
A
and B/Br wire terminal
B.
$ IAT sensor input voltage: 4.5 – 5.5 V
(
+ Dg –
- Ground)
(
+ Dg –
- B/Br)
!09900-25008: Multi-circuit tester set
&Tester knob indication: Voltage (')
Is the voltage OK?
DETECTED CONDITION POSSIBLE CAUSE
C21 Output voltage is not within the following
range.
0.15 V Sensor voltage < 4.85 V
• IAT sensor circuit open or short
• IAT sensor malfunction
• ECM malfunction
P0110
P0110
H
Sensor voltage is higher than specified
value.
• IAT sensor circuit open or ground circuit open
• IAT sensor circuit shorted to ground
L
Sensor voltage is lower than specified
value.
ECM
B/Br E2
Dg IAT
IAT sensor
1
V
1
YES Go to Step 2.
NO
• Loose or poor contacts on the ECM coupler
(terminal
Q or
S)
• Open or short circuit in the Dg wire or B/Br wire

[rickpay1]

will try this tonight when i get home, any idea if the bike can still be ridden with this code on? idles and runs perfect...

[BigpapaM109]

will try this tonight when i get home, any idea if the bike can still be rideden with this code on? idles and runs perfect...
No. If you ride the bike with an FI light, most times it will put the bike into limp mode. You wont' be able to rev higher then a few thousand rpm's. Strange that it popped that code. Have you had the tank off for any reason?

[rickpay1]

Rode the bike 80 miles round trip tonight. Ran perfect no issues. The light is still on with same code21. Called dealer ,they think the code popped for whatever reason but is a stored code that need to be reset. Bike revs,idles and run fine. This is a 09 le that I brought in April still in crate so has warranty still on it. Even though I have put the pc v on it and gi pro as well as sideburners they will still honor the warranty, pretty good guys there. And I too think it was strange to pop a code for air temp sensor but we shall see I guess.